A reader sends in this awful account:"As I was looking out my window last night, I saw a man beating his dog. It happened in front of 4555 N. Malden. The man was walking south on Malden and his dog was walking next to him. The dog had a leash but the man was not holding it. The dog stopped to look at the building and the man started yelling and swearing at him. Then he hit him multiple times, strangled him with his collar and threw him across the sidewalk. I called 911 immediately. It was absolutely horrible. This man is probably in his 20's, light skinned African American or Hispanic, hair in 2 braids, was wearing blue t shirt. The dog was on the smaller side, probably like 35 or 40 pounds, white/brown/black. Could be a pitbull mix. Please be aware and if you see this man abusing his dog, call 911. It makes me sick to think of what else that poor dog has gone through."
A commenter in another post left these numbers -- please call them also!
ReplyDeleteI have both CPD/Humane Society
800-535-7867
and
Cook County Dogfighting Task Force
847-635-1188
I would tell you all how I really feel about this, but UU would never post it.
ReplyDeleteNot sure which pissed me off more... this story or hearing about this Lebron James stroke all night...
I, for one, am more concerned with the fact that a pit bull is being walked, while the leash is dragging on the ground. Which in my mind, is a clear indication of a negligent pet owner.
ReplyDeleteBut this is just business as usual. Chicago is full of irresponsible dog owners.
Wow! horrible. Poor dog.
ReplyDeleteTimothy Fitz REALLY ???
ReplyDeleteWow, I don't even know what to say ! You're more concerned about a leash dragging then a dog being abused in public ?
I'm sorry for you, I really am. It must be rough going through life being so unbelievably selfish because of fear.
meg, thanks for reposting those numbers.
I know 5 different Pit Bull owners in this area all very good dogs. I have personally got down face to face and greeted/pet. And yes TF I still have my face.
Alot of guys like the one described in this post try to "rough up" their dogs in an attempt to make them more aggressive. Many times Pit bulls will frustrate these owners because they just won't become people aggressive (beatings make them "small" not "big") this often leads to further abuse, neglect, abandonment, even death. It's true Pit Bulls definetly aim to please their owners. Thankfully (and unfortunatley for the dogs) these kind of idiots don't have the intellectual capacity to train their dogs to do what they want them to do (become people aggressive). Owner frustration and anger usually makes Pit bulls confused and scared because they don't know how to please their masters which is true fear to a Pit Bull.
I also see a big crazy haired tatooed latin guy in the area who seems incredibly angered over the fact that his Pit is a happy dog that wants to meet and greet everyone. This stuff breaks my heart.
PERHAPS THE OWNER SHOULD HAVE THE LEASH TAKEN TO HIM. I'VE SAID SOMETHING TO AN OWNER WHEN I SEE THEM BEING CRUEL TO THEIR DOGS. I'VE EVEN SAID IT WHEN I SEE PARENTS BEATING ON THEIR KIDS. THEIR ANSWER? "MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" TO WHICH I SAY "YOU MAKE IT MY BUSINESS WHEN YOU DO THIS IN PUBLIC". PRETTY MUCH SHUTS PEOPLE RIGHT UP.
ReplyDeleteIt makes me sick to my stomach to think of people abusing dogs. We know have a County Sheriff who cares about this -- please call whenever you see animal abuse.
ReplyDelete"YOU MAKE IT MY BUSINESS WHEN YOU DO THIS IN PUBLIC".
ReplyDeleteBest comment, evah!
UptownPits, you have your concerns, and I have mine. Remember, it’s the diversity that makes America great!
ReplyDeleteBesides, what that man ALLEGEDLY did to his dog, pales in comparison to what his dog can potentially do to someone else.
I happened to own two American Staffordshire Terriers. So, your comment about my fear and selfishness is ridiculous. Unlike the negligent dog owners I have seen in the park and roaming the streets of Rogers Park, Uptown, and Lakeview, I realize that my dogs are potentially dangerous and have the power to harm people. That's why I would never be dumb enough to walk them while their leashes drag the ground. Or, on leads 20-feet ahead of me.
While some folks may not care about a pit bull walking itself down the street, those of us with the gift of foresight, can recognize how this could be a potential problem.
Perhaps Tim if your dogs have potential to harm people you are not a good dog owner.
ReplyDeleteMy dog won't harm a flee on or off the leash.
I will take a well mannered and minded dog any day off a leash before I will take the aggressive dogs on leashes.
At least with your dog on the leash and mine off the leash my dog can get away without being tangled in your beasts leashes and having them bite him.
A,
ReplyDeleteAny dog has the potential to do harm if the proper stimulus is present - regardless of how good of a dog owner someone is.
Well mannered and minded does not make up for the fact that dogs are still animals controlled by instinct.
I'd say that Tim is at least more cogniscent of the potential of his dogs than most other pit bull/terrier owners I've encountered.
No Timothy Fitz, I really don't think they are ridiculous. Their is responsible/foresight and then their is demonizing and fearing. You being a dog owner "alledgedly" of 2 Pit Bulls (yeah I know it's like saying Voldamort: evil) makes your comments that much worse in my eyes.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion you fall in the latter group when your emotionally-fear driven "foresight" is based on nothing more than "potential". This is the problem I have with your post. I've seen first hand hundreds possibly thousands of traumatic deaths from homicides, vehicular accidents, drownings, fires, electricution, CO, chokings, O.D's, trains/EL, simple slip and falls, falling debris, gas line ruptures, structure clapse, falling ice !!....you get my point this could go on and on, though I must add bee sting (1) yep, exactly 1 more than Pit Bull mauling deaths that I've had over the years (which is 0). I couldn't survive with your mentality.
It is a very diverse view indeed!
To me it is these animal neglectors/abusers/ciminal users who are the irresponsible and danerous dog owners. It seems like you define that as someone with a leash too long. That is your right. And you are right their is potential for great harm, just like their is from falling off a bike (3).
It's the Deed, Not the Breed !!!
YO:
ReplyDeleteAny human being has the potential to do harm if the proper stimulus is present - regardless of how good of a parent they have.
I see a lot of kids and adult that should be on leashes too.
HERE'S THE THING. I HAVE TWO MAILTIPOO'S, VERY SMALL DOGS. WHEN THE OLDEST WAS ABOUT 7 WEEKS OLD AND I WOULD TAKE HER OUT TO TRAIN HER FOR HOUSEBREAKING ON A LEASH, DOG OWNERS WOULD TAKE THEIR DOGS TO THE PARK AND IMMEDIATELY UNLEASH THEM. GUESS WHAT? THEIR MUCH BIGGER DOGS WOULD SEE MY 3 POUND DOG AND COME CHARGING AT US. I GUESS SHE LOOKED LIKE A RABBIT OR SOMETHING. I'D HAVE TO PICK HER UP AND GENTLY KICK THE DOGS CHARGING US TO PROTECT HER. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DO THAT. NEEDLESS TO SAY, BOTH MYSELF AND MY DOG WERE VERY TRAUMATIZED SO, SHE IS NOW LITTER TRAINED AND DOESN'T GO OUT ANYMORE AT ALL. BETTER TO SAVE HER LIFE FROM IRRESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS WHO LET THEIR DOGS OFF THE LEASH AND THAN DON'T KEEP AN EYE ON THEM THAN TO LOSE HER. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE MONTROSE DOGGIE BEACH A WHILE AGO. WE HAVE "CURB YOUR DOG" SIGNS FOR A REASON. IF YOU WANT TO LET YOUR DOG RUN, TAKE IT TO THE DOGGIE PARKS OR THE DOGGIE BEACHES, NOT TO PARKS WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALSO WALKING THEIR DOGS ON A LEASH. PEOPLE NEED TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERS. THE PUBLIC PARK AREAS ARE NOT YOUR PERSONAL SPACE. GET A YARD FOR YOUR DOG IF YOU MUST LET THEM RUN. BUT THOSE PARKS ARE MY SPACE AS WELL EVEN IF I'M NOT WALKING A DOG.
ReplyDeleteI still don't see what's wrong with Tim's statement:
ReplyDeleteI realize that my dogs are potentially dangerous and have the power to harm people. That's why I would never be dumb enough to walk them while their leashes drag the ground.
Of course, the owner mentioned in this post is demonstrating abhorrent and unacceptable behavior by beating the dog - I don't think anyone is arguing that; but, I'd like to see more owners of aggressive breeds realize that they need to be constantly vigiliant with their pets.
What we're facing here, with the gentlemen mentioned in this post, is someone who may not only beat their dog, but may walk it unrestrained in public.
So, you end up with a dog of an aggressive breed, traumatized by abuse, who is unrestrained.
The "potential" aspect of the danger pretty much grows into an "expectant" aspect of danger.
And, A ... you're right - there are a lot of people out there who would be well served on a leash.
I was at the PAWS event downtown last year. I was hanging out with a Pit Bull rescue when this 40 something woman got down on her knees and started petting a dog, who if you know Pits love to lick faces. She told us she was looking to adopt today and this was the best dog she had seen all day. She asked what kind of Dog it was, as she was giving it kisses. I told her a Pit Bull, she jumped back in stark terror looked at us angrily and walked away as if someone had just farted in her face. I asked the girl running this rescue how often does that happen. She told me all the time. I wasn't surprised, I can't even count how many mothers ask if their kids can pet my dogs and 2 minutes into it when they ask what breed my dogs are. They then scoop up their kids as if they noticed a rattlesnake on the ground.
ReplyDeleteYo,
I have no complaint with that statement what so ever, Tim seems to know his particular dogs and acts accordingly. I respect that, he's protecting them as well as others. Can't argue with that.
A.... knocked it out of the park with his retort: Basically any person/thing has "Potential" for harm. Their is self preservation and then their is generalizing and bastardization. Which is ignorant and ABSOLUTELY FEAR DRIVEN and often completely wrong. We know this dog is a victim, but yet some people are more concerned with what this dog has potential to do "ALLEGEDLY" (without even knowing this specific dog all because it's a Pit Bull). It comes across as small minded and self centered to me.