We've lost track of the number of zoning change notices pertaining to the McJunkin Building in the 4500 block of north Broadway. This one is the latest.
SECTION 1. Section 17-9-0112 of the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago:
Personal Services. Hair salons, barber shops, beauty shops, and nail salons are permitted by-right in "B" districts if located more than 1,000 feet from any other hair salon, barber shop, beauty shop or nail salon. Special use approval is required for hair salons, barber shops, beauty shops, and nail salons in "B" districts when such use is located within 1,000 feet of any other hair salon, barber shop, beauty shop, or nail salon.
Mmmm, once certain alderman is asking for a zoning variance. I wonder how many hair and nail salons are along 4400 through 4600 blocks of Broadway?
I wonder how all the nail salons can stay in business. There is alot of them all over the city and as I drive by they all look pretty busy to me. Some young Asian women in my condo have 3 of them and they said they are a pure money maker operation and hope to open more. I always thought they where a front for other things.
What's wrong with nail salons? Sorry it is not a Gap or Chipolte. You should just be happy if someone rents the place and contributes to the local economy. I can count 5 vacant store fronts within 2 blocks of my place.
Plus, they offer all types of great services like manicures, pedicures, waxing, etc. I know I don't like my wife to have a mustache or unibrow.
geofredo said... Ugh another nail salon? What is up with those?
What's "up" is that it's a low overhead business for a service that American women spent over $6 BILLION on last year. It went down a bit because of the recession.
Who says a nail salon is lower standards? Who said anything about poor people? I didn't know this would get turned into a socio economic debate. I was just wondering why people would complain about a nail salon opening in a area that needs all the buisnesses it can get.
Jtizzle, could you then explain why Uptown should be exempt from this standard that the rest of the city is required to follow? Honestly, Uptown is in trouble because we have always settled for less.
I too am wondering why a B district service type business needs a zoning change to a C district. C districts allow many more types of businesses like auto repair shops, used car lots, funeral homes, etc.
Regarding nail salon. Yes here is a proliferation of them. However, they do attact people into the neighborhood who may well stick around and shop at other businesses. And by the way guys, its not just for ladies anymore. Guys love the relaxing foot scrubs and toe nail clean outs just as much as the gals.
The problem with all of this is that once Helen Shiller decides on a zoning variance, it's all ready to be rubber stamped by the rest of City Council. No community input. No input from Uptown United. No input from experts in urban planning. Helen likes it, so that's it. End of discussion.
Sure there are zoning variances done all over the city. They should be the exception rather than the rule. Stroll down Broadway and count the number of hair and nail salons from the 4400 block to the 4600 block and let me know if you think we need a zoning variance to add another one. We just put in Target that is suppose to stimulate more retail. Once we have this zoning variance, we're stuck with it.
I have a real problem with the city telling businesses where they can or cannot locate. (Providing the zoning for such a business is allows such a business). This whole thing about nail and hair salons should not be within so many feet of another establishment is crazy.
If that was the case why doesn't the city regulate restaurants and bars the same way? Surely Wild Pug would do better if Crew, Fat Cat & Green Mill were not on the same block, but it was the owners decision to locate and take the financial risk. If it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, that's the chance they took.
Frankly, I'm more concerned that none of the other retail space available at Wilson Yard has been taken. No coming soon signs. No building permits. No nothing. There were a ton of promises made that there were commitments from retailers.
Actually most nail salons in Illinois are not making money due to competition and price wars. Most of the nail salons around Uptown are not profitable. However, some "nail supply" stores in the area are doing okay.
Ugh another nail salon?
ReplyDeleteWhat is up with those?
Its like a never ending contagion.
SECTION 1. Section 17-9-0112 of the Municipal Code of the City of Chicago:
ReplyDeletePersonal Services. Hair salons, barber shops, beauty shops, and nail salons are permitted by-right in "B" districts if located more than 1,000 feet from any other hair salon, barber shop, beauty shop or nail salon. Special use approval is required for hair salons, barber shops, beauty shops, and nail salons in "B" districts when such use is located within 1,000 feet of any other hair salon, barber shop, beauty shop, or nail salon.
Mmmm, once certain alderman is asking for a zoning variance. I wonder how many hair and nail salons are along 4400 through 4600 blocks of Broadway?
I wonder how all the nail salons can stay in business. There is alot of them all over the city and as I drive by they all look pretty busy to me. Some young Asian women in my condo have 3 of them and they said they are a pure money maker operation and hope to open more. I always thought they where a front for other things.
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with nail salons? Sorry it is not a Gap or Chipolte. You should just be happy if someone rents the place and contributes to the local economy. I can count 5 vacant store fronts within 2 blocks of my place.
ReplyDeletePlus, they offer all types of great services like manicures, pedicures, waxing, etc. I know I don't like my wife to have a mustache or unibrow.
geofredo said...
ReplyDeleteUgh another nail salon?
What is up with those?
What's "up" is that it's a low overhead business for a service that American women spent over $6 BILLION on last year. It went down a bit because of the recession.
Jtizzle, I wonder why Uptown should have lower standards than the rest of the city? Is it because poor people don't deserve better?
ReplyDeleteWho says a nail salon is lower standards? Who said anything about poor people? I didn't know this would get turned into a socio economic debate. I was just wondering why people would complain about a nail salon opening in a area that needs all the buisnesses it can get.
ReplyDeleteJtizzle, could you then explain why Uptown should be exempt from this standard that the rest of the city is required to follow? Honestly, Uptown is in trouble because we have always settled for less.
ReplyDelete@just wondering:
ReplyDeleteZoning change =/= exemption.
You asked "why Uptown should be exempt from this standard that the rest of the city is required to follow?"
Are you sure there are no other places in the city where Nail Salons are located in "C" rather "B" districts? I would find this hard to believe.
Additionally I don't see how this is settling for less. Could you please explain what you meant by this comment?
To Just Wondering:
ReplyDeleteI too am wondering why a B district service type business needs a zoning change to a C district. C districts allow many more types of businesses like auto repair shops, used car lots, funeral homes, etc.
Regarding nail salon. Yes here is a proliferation of them. However, they do attact people into the neighborhood who may well stick around and shop at other businesses. And by the way guys, its not just for ladies anymore. Guys love the relaxing foot scrubs and toe nail clean outs just as much as the gals.
The problem with all of this is that once Helen Shiller decides on a zoning variance, it's all ready to be rubber stamped by the rest of City Council. No community input. No input from Uptown United. No input from experts in urban planning. Helen likes it, so that's it. End of discussion.
ReplyDeleteSure there are zoning variances done all over the city. They should be the exception rather than the rule. Stroll down Broadway and count the number of hair and nail salons from the 4400 block to the 4600 block and let me know if you think we need a zoning variance to add another one. We just put in Target that is suppose to stimulate more retail. Once we have this zoning variance, we're stuck with it.
The election can't come soon enough.
I have a real problem with the city telling businesses where they can or cannot locate. (Providing the zoning for such a business is allows such a business). This whole thing about nail and hair salons should not be within so many feet of another establishment is crazy.
ReplyDeleteIf that was the case why doesn't the city regulate restaurants and bars the same way? Surely Wild Pug would do better if Crew, Fat Cat & Green Mill were not on the same block, but it was the owners decision to locate and take the financial risk. If it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, that's the chance they took.
Frankly, I'm more concerned that none of the other retail space available at Wilson Yard has been taken. No coming soon signs. No building permits. No nothing. There were a ton of promises made that there were commitments from retailers.
Actually most nail salons in Illinois are not making money due to competition and price wars. Most of the nail salons around Uptown are not profitable. However, some "nail supply" stores in the area are doing okay.
ReplyDelete