Just for fun i did a couple of ther streets, just to see how it compares:
O N State = 730 100 N State = 838 800 N State = 382 0 S State = 248 300 S State = 276 2200 S State = 911 2700 S State = 471
200 N Michigan = 313 800 N Michigan = 703 (John Hancock/Water Tower) 100 S Michigan = 160
1200 N CLark = 315
0 E Jackson = 236
6300 S. Ashland = 356 7900 S Ashland = 330
Not to say that your findings are acceptable, but to keep it in perspective of the entire city, that there are "worse" areas of the city, including downtown, which should be "safe," yet in fact has more crimes (at least reported in the current database) than Uptown.
The problem with the numbers at ChicagoCrime.org is that they just give total numbers of crime, but not the severity of that crime. Also, the per capita crime rate isn't shown. The area near the Hancock has thousands more people going through daily than Wilson and Broadway, so of course there will be a greater number of total crimes. You'd think that Water Tower Place shoplifting alone would account for a lot of those numbers.
A more useful gauge of neighborhood safety would show levels of VIOLENT crime. When ICAM maps used to be available, you could see that Uptown violent crime between Montrose, Lawrence, Broadway, and the Lake was MUCH higher than in surronding areas. It was spelled out as clear as day with bright red map markers. ChicagoCrime.org is a bit more difficult to read.
Once again JP proves that Uptown was lucky when he was forced out due to prices. Ah, the market and Darwinism at work.
Unfortunately, like jock itch he likes to return.
Take a look at something roughly comparable. The 900 block of Fullerton right next to the EL stop. Still a high number of crimes, but less than the similar block of Wilson. Also a much busier EL Stop.
You need to compare roughly similar locations based on factors which are beyond the capability of Rogers Park Paulus to understand.
Towns with large regional shopping malls also have "high crime" rates based on shoplifting and car theft. That doesn't mean they are relatively "unsafe".
Everything needs to be put in context.
Now compared to parts of the West or South side Uptown is downright safe. Buena Park actually generally has less crime than some of the neighboring areas south.
Now the area of Uptown from Montrose to Lawrence and Broadway to the Lake generally is the scene of most of the violent crime in the hood.
Seriously JP, you just don't get it. Do you honestly think that michigan avenue has the same amount/type of crime as uptown? Time to use that big brain of yours.
Check out the 1100 block of Wilson and the 4600 block of Broadway. Notice something?
Just for fun i did a couple of ther streets, just to see how it compares:
ReplyDeleteO N State = 730
100 N State = 838
800 N State = 382
0 S State = 248
300 S State = 276
2200 S State = 911
2700 S State = 471
200 N Michigan = 313
800 N Michigan = 703 (John Hancock/Water Tower)
100 S Michigan = 160
1200 N CLark = 315
0 E Jackson = 236
6300 S. Ashland = 356
7900 S Ashland = 330
Not to say that your findings are acceptable, but to keep it in perspective of the entire city, that there are "worse" areas of the city, including downtown, which should be "safe," yet in fact has more crimes (at least reported in the current database) than Uptown.
If I lived at 6300 South Ashland, or 2200 South State, I might give a damn.
ReplyDeleteBut I live near Wilson and Broadway and those numbers are unacceptable.
How about the numbers at your closest intersection, JP?
The problem with the numbers at ChicagoCrime.org is that they just give total numbers of crime, but not the severity of that crime. Also, the per capita crime rate isn't shown. The area near the Hancock has thousands more people going through daily than Wilson and Broadway, so of course there will be a greater number of total crimes. You'd think that Water Tower Place shoplifting alone would account for a lot of those numbers.
ReplyDeleteA more useful gauge of neighborhood safety would show levels of VIOLENT crime. When ICAM maps used to be available, you could see that Uptown violent crime between Montrose, Lawrence, Broadway, and the Lake was MUCH higher than in surronding areas. It was spelled out as clear as day with bright red map markers. ChicagoCrime.org is a bit more difficult to read.
Once again JP proves that Uptown was lucky when he was forced out due to prices. Ah, the market and Darwinism at work.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, like jock itch he likes to return.
Take a look at something roughly comparable. The 900 block of Fullerton right next to the EL stop. Still a high number of crimes, but less than the similar block of Wilson. Also a much busier EL Stop.
You need to compare roughly similar locations based on factors which are beyond the capability of Rogers Park Paulus to understand.
Towns with large regional shopping malls also have "high crime" rates based on shoplifting and car theft. That doesn't mean they are relatively "unsafe".
Everything needs to be put in context.
Now compared to parts of the West or South side Uptown is downright safe. Buena Park actually generally has less crime than some of the neighboring areas south.
Now the area of Uptown from Montrose to Lawrence and Broadway to the Lake generally is the scene of most of the violent crime in the hood.
That is what is unacceptable.
Seriously JP, you just don't get it. Do you honestly think that michigan avenue has the same amount/type of crime as uptown? Time to use that big brain of yours.
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