The Tribune has a lengthy article about Detective Jennifer Ryle and her dedication to finding Baby Wilson's birth mother. It really demonstrates her determination and persistence. We're glad to have cops like her in our area.
However, the article had a few paragraphs that just broke our heart:
According to state records obtained by the Tribune, it was determined after CT scans that the child suffered a skull fracture as a result of child abuse.
Wilson was released from the hospital and placed in a temporary facility for special needs children, Ryle said. He will need long-term care, she said.
Scared her parents would be angered by her pregnancy, the teen decided to hide the newborn outside, Ryle said. "She was so nervous about her parents finding out," Ryle said, referring to when the family was being interviewed. "The parents told her, 'We would have loved this baby. We would have helped you raise this baby.' "
We wish the best for Baby Wilson in his future. He'll need all the help and prayers he can get. He's already been lucky to have had Brandon Shephard and Det. Ryle as his advocates; let's hope the miracles continue for him.
Det. Ryle is my hero; and a glaring example that the police are not the problem.
ReplyDeleteShe gets it.
"Whenever the victim is a child, we're the only voice that child has,"
"This is just another example of how important education is,"
"I don't know how anyone can be human and leave a baby to die,"
Major kudos to a member of our police force who's got brains, heart and guts; and the determination to do the right thing.
If only our elected officials were capable of demonstrating the same qualities of character.
My personal position all along is reaffirmed. This girl should face full criminal responsibility for her heinous actions. Do you think she feels remorse now? Or are her only emotions self-centered ("Why is this happening to me?"). Much like the gangbangers who present themeselves as victims after the are charged with Murder on a city street. They are all sociopaths.
ReplyDeleteI don't think we know enough to be so judgmental. Was anyone else present when she gave birth who may have caused the injuries? How did the cut happen? How did the skull fracture happen? When dodctors screw up a delivery they get sued not criminally prosecuted. She could have gone to a clinic a few hours earlier, had a doctor crush the skull and no one would give a shit and we tax payers would save a lot of money. It's all very confusing to to an ignorant teenager.
ReplyDeleteIgnorant teenager?? She is a 15 year old who wrapped her baby in a plastic bag and threw it in the bushes - because she was afraid of her parents! I honestly do not understand the default thinking of excusing people - even a teenager - for their potentially fatal actions. There is one victim here, and it is the innocent child she tossed in the bushes like she had probably done to every McDonalds wrapper and chip bag she has ever eaten. She could have gone to a clinic, but she didn't. She chose to throw it away. She could have annonymously left it at a church or police station or even a door step, but she didn't. She chose to throw it away. What does that act say about someone? I, for one, do not think that it evokes empahty or sympathy as much as rancor, outrage, and disgust.
ReplyDeleteWhen did I ever say she should be excused? I didn't. Don't put words in my post which aren't there.
ReplyDeleteI'm just saying I'm not prepared to be this girl's judge, jury and executioner.
Given the she was nearly the executioner of her newborn, good riddance to her. I hope she has time in Statesville to think about her actions.
ReplyDeleteWasn't she only fifteen? She won't be going to Stateville Correctional Center. And I believe Stateville's population is men only.
ReplyDeleteIf it is found that she is solely or even primarily responsible for what happened to the infant, (That hasn't been established beyond reasonable doubt yet) then, and only then, should she be punished. The punishment must fit the crime. What danger does this girl present to society? How much would it cost to just lock her up? How long? If not for life, then what's it going to cost us?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand this rush to judgement.
She will likely be charged as an adult, as most teenage murder or attempt murder offenses are. It is not a matter of the future threat she presents to society. It is punishment for an act she already committed. That being said, she has proven that she is capable of wrapping a baby in plastic and throwing it the bushes. So, I would say she certainly poses a greater threat than your average 15 y.o. school girl. Regardless of the IDOC facility she would go to, I hope that she does.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could be as omniscient as you. Unfortunately I can't claim to be God.
ReplyDeleteNeither can I. But, with all due respect, you have every right to call yourself a bleeding heart nut who's default logic is to lean in favor of conduct disordered teens and sociopaths. I am half joking.
ReplyDeleteOk, I read the article in the Trib. Skull fracture, bruising, cut lip "extremely suggestive of abuse."
ReplyDeleteSorry, but I can't summon sympathy for someone who would intentionally hurt a newborn baby like this, then wrap it in three plastic bags and toss it in a courtyard like garbage. She didn't intend this baby to be found, and she didn't intend for it to live.
I'm sorry she was too afraid to talk to her parents, but there must of been someone else who knew this girl was pregnant, friends, other family members, someone at school. I don't know any 15 year-old who has the capacity to keep a secret this big bottled up. What about the boyfriend, if there was one? Did he not notice the belly?
My heart goes out to baby Wilson, whose chance at a normal life was snatched from him within minutes of his first few breaths.
This girl deserves to go to jail for a LONG time. Attempted murder is the correct charge in this case.
Now maybe I missed something... but i didn't see in the article that dna had proved conclusively that the child was hers (could she be covering for someone else?). I don't remember reading that she claims to have acted alone and inflicted the injuries and/or wrapped the infant in the bags. I don't remember reading that her fingerprints were found on the bags. I don't remember reading that her pregnancy was confirmed.
ReplyDeleteJust a few things I'd like to know. And I still don't want to waste a lot of my money throwing her in jail when it won't change a damn thing. I make no apologies for being a bleeding heart liberal. Paradoxically, I'm also a capitalist. I want my money spent where it'll be most effective. I want the best return on my investment. I want consistancy. How can we as a society say it's fine for an MD to throw away an infant but not a poor black kid. Is it just a matter of paying the disposal fee?
okay.... this goes to show you the bad parenting that goes on in today's society. don't get me wrong, this 15 year old made a serious mistake and should be punished in accordance with the law for whatever her involvement with baby wilson.
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, this village to raise a child crap thats being preached by some is absolutely ridiculous. This 15 year old was afraid to tell her parents, are you f-ing kidding me??? What kind of 15 year old would throw a baby in a plastic bag and leave it to die. Obviously a 15 year old whos parents had no involvement in the kids life and decided not to teach their children that they can come to them for anything no matter what the problem. This bad parenting is why these kids learn about life from gangbangers on the streets. Absolutely insane. Some parents think that sending their kids to school(if they actually go) they will learn about sex thru the system and this will excuse them from having the "talk". Well it doesnt. Assuming I am right, her parents must feel horrible because not only are they losing a grandchild, but possibly a daughter.
Sorry for the rant.....
IMO, this 15-year-old girl made a mistake, but it should not ruin her life. She's way too young to understand the implications of her actions.
ReplyDeleteFor all we know, she could eventually end up with custody of the child, as reuniting family members under the proper circumstances is the primary goal of DCFS. Her parents probably want the child too, and may take legal action to gain custody. More power to them, I say.
Bradley, I hate to say it, but you are just erased any merit of your previous posts. Perhaps you are just joking? DNA evidence? Acted alone? Maybe it's a conspiracy and Mark Furmon kidnapped the baby and wrapped it in plastic. Give me a break. So, because it unfortunately costs a lot of money to lock a criminal away, we should excuse their actions and just let them off the hook? This is a bad person and unless she was severely mentally retarded - which the extant data argues against - she is should face the consequences for her heinous actions to an innocent baby. Or, may she just needs some cookies, an Ipod, and Section 8 housing to help her out.
ReplyDelete-I want consistancy. How can we as a society say it's fine for an MD to throw away an infant but not a poor black kid. Is it just a matter of paying the disposal fee?-
ReplyDeleteWhat the hell are you talking about? Did you read somewhere that anyone condones her throwing her baby away? And I'm sorry,why are you bringing race into this? I haven't read anywhwere the race of this 15 year-old girl. Why would it matter?
Race is no excuse, or absolvent of personal responsbility.
Neither is poverty.
It's statements like the one you posted that cause you to get labeled a left-wing, bleeding heart nut job.
I'm sure the police have the whole DNA, fingerprints, etc. covered. Just because they haven't published those findings, doesn't mean they haven't happened yet. Keep in mind, they just found the mother, so now they likely can match the prints that were likely on the multiple bags this baby was tied up in. DNA results aren't immediate. Those take a few days, if not a few weeks depending on the queue.
Why the hell would this girl admit to being the person who did this to the baby unless she knew her goose was cooked and the cops had her pegged? Are you serious? Sorry, the baby isn't mine. Yes, please, run tests on me, you'll see that I haven't recently given birth.
Even after several weeks of giving birth, the mother still has the tell-tale signs of having carried a baby - a blood test and a five minute examination by any trained OBGYN would make it clear if this girl had, or had not given birth.
You're argument is completely asinine. Its fine if you feel sympathy for this girl, its your perogative. But please stick to the facts as we know them so far.
1. The baby wasn't wrapped in any blankets, or clothing, or wrapped with anything that would indicate this girl cared one bit for this baby.
2. The child showed obvious signs of abuse. A trained doctor can tell the difference between injuries sustained during a birth, during being tossed, or abuse.
3. He was tied in THREE plastic bags and left out in the elements. In the bushes. -He was not left on a doorstep, or any place where he would likely be found.
Bottom line, the girl needs to be punished, and likely needs some sort of psychiatric help for whatever made her think it was ok to do this to a defenseless baby.
Billy Joe
ReplyDeleteWhy would you ever think that 15-years-old is too young to appreciate the criminality and potential fatality of wrapping a baby in 3 plastic bags and throwing it in the bushes at nighttime? She is 15, not 3. She made a mistake, an intentional, purposeful, volitional mistake that almost killed her baby. Hence, ATTEMPT MURDER.
My point is we don't have all the facts yet. I doubt you do either. (especially since you had earlier said you're not, in fact, omniscient)It's counter productive to rush to judgement. Your reductio ad absurdum however fails to address my position. Again... I have never, ever, in this or previous posts said that she should be excused. I was always taught that in this country one was innocent until proven guilty. I was also taught that the burden was on the accuser (state) to prove guilt.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I lied. I am omniscient. She is guilty. She threw a newborn in the bushes. Good Riddance.
ReplyDeleteOmni Scient
You're absolutely right Farrell...mea culpa. I don't know why I assumed the mother was black and poor, maybe because of the area. But you missed my point utterly regarding consistancy. Read it, think about it.
ReplyDelete1) Where is all of this "three plastic bags" stuff from?
ReplyDeleteFrom the article: The case started in the early hours of July 8, when Brandon Shepard, a resident of the building where the infant was found, heard strange noises as he returned home from a date. He went to investigate and found a baby inside a plastic grocery bag with its umbilical cord still attached, he said.
2) Even the cop that solved the case is showing sympathy to the girl.
"I knew I was the only advocate for this child," she said. "I also was afraid for the mother. I knew that someone gave birth and didn't get medical attention."
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"She was so nervous about her parents finding out," Ryle said, referring to when the family was being interviewed.
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"This is just another example of how important education is," Ryle said. "School just started. Let's get the information out there to let girls know they have options. [The 15-year-old] had no idea of her options."
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Maybe we should jump down this cops throat too for showing some understanding and some sympathy. It's only fair, right?
The "three plastic bags" came from an interview Brandon Shephard gave the News-Star. (The News-Star was the only news outlet in town to get the spelling of his name right, along with other details.) I've met Brandon and talked to him about the baby, and he confirmed that the infant was tied in three plastic bags, each one tied tightly shut. He said it looked like takeout food.
ReplyDeleteI had sympathy for the person who abandoned him until that point. Tied the newborn kid up with no air and now we find out he had severe abuse, a fractured skull, and is in a special-needs home.
I was a clueless 15-year-old, but I could never do that to anyone or anything.
No winners in this story.
I was a clueless 15-year-old, but I could never do that to anyone or anything.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to think I wouldn't have done anything like that either. Actually, I'm pretty sure I woudln't, but that's playing revisionist extreme history.
But I mainly wanted to show that it is possible to show compassion AND mete out punishment, despite what some knuckleheads would have you believe. Hell, the arresting officer did it and she was a hell of alot closer to the issue that anyone here. If you want to hate her, see her burn in hell and call her a monster, feel free. But let others feel sorry for the girl (but agree she should be punished) feel the way they feel. "I'm right and you're a bleeding heart" is a pretty stupid argument point.
Not to excuse the immoral nature of this girl's actions, but these comments are terribly judgmental. How can you presume to know her mental state and circumstances at the time of birth? Clearly she should have sought help. But not all 15 year olds have the same level of awareness or emotional maturity, and clearly this girl didn't know anyone she trusted to help her. Pregnancy and birth are overwhelming experiences, even for adult women with secure, loving support systems around them. Furthermore, the power of denial can be very strong and can influence our behaviors in ways we don't understand. Is it possible that if she gave birth in clandestine circumstances (ie, outside, in a basement, in a car) that the newborn could have fallen, and thus sustained a fracture or abrasion? Is it possible that in her haste to get the baby out of sight she grabbed what was immediately available and didn't think about the fact that a plastic bag might suffocate the baby? How many of you can say that you successfully gave birth all alone? How many of you have tried to empathize with the fear and pain she might have felt?
ReplyDeleteShe didn't strangle the baby, nor did she leave it in a dumpster. She left him in the bushes next to an apartment building, which suggests to me that she was hoping he might be discovered. And how is the baby's father not culpable in any way? Where is he? Wasn't it his responsibility to make sure this girl got help from someone, somewhere, sometime in her pregnancy? And if a 15 year-old can successfully hide a full-term pregnancy from her parents, I would say that the adults around her aren't paying much attention. It's quite possible that a 15 year old would have no idea that there was a safe haven available to her and her child, and given that sex ed in schools is nonexistent, what did she know in advance about contraceptive and healthcare options available to her?
This story is not just one about a criminally negligent or possibly murderous 15 year-old, but of a family, a boyfriend, a community, a school system, and city who all helped to turn an unwanted pregnancy into a tragedy. Kudos to Detective Ryle for following this through. Maybe this girl (and others like her) can now learn from the consequences of her actions and receive some of the counselling she undoubtedly needs.
Magnolia Twist, I agree with you that the father, and anyone else who knew this girl was pregnant should also be held responsible.
ReplyDeleteI find her actions reprehensible, and she should be punished for them, and receive whatever mental help she may need.
I don't think the injuries are a result of a fall, as the article indicated they were most suggestive of abuse - like I said, most trained MDs and ME's can tell the difference between injuries sustained due to falls, birth, and abuse.
If the baby was found on the doorstep of the building,wrapped in blankets to keep him warm, I would agree with you that she intended for him to be found. Just like the old 'baby in a basket on the doorstep' days. But the fact that he was found in THREE plastic bags, tied tight, according to the samaritan who found him, would indicate she did NOT want this baby found.
I understand that she is 15. And the terror, pain, etc. that she likely experienced. However, her actions should not be without consequences. I'm not suggesting this girl should be fried or whatever. But if the evidence points beyond a reasonable doubt that this girl was trying to kill her baby to conceal it's existence, then she should be charged with attempted murder. Period. Her state of mind can be factored into her defense, and her ultimate punishment determined by a jury.
I completely agree that anyone who was involved with this, especially the boyfriend, if they knew about the pregnancy, and knew what she did to the boy, they too should be charged as accomplices. I hold them just as much responsible for this, especially if any of those involved are adults and 'know better' than a 15 year-old girl.
However, her actions should not be without consequences.
ReplyDeleteNo one here has ever said they shouldn't.
MT - you sure have a sympathetic and, in my opinion, rediculously insane view of this situation. How in the F did the school system, the community, the city contribute to a person wrapping a baby in 3 plastic bags and leaving for dead outside, in the bushes, at nightime!!!??? Maybe we should blame SUVs, handguns, Karl Rove, aluminum baseball bats, and trans-fats. A 15 y.o. being in such a rush to rid herself of the little burden she gave birth to that she did not think about the potentially fatal consequences?? You have got to be kidding, or high as a kite. Your argument alleviates all responsibility from a heinous act to a completely defenseless newborn child.
ReplyDeleteYou also mention the powers of "denial"???? Maybe the teenage gangbangers shooting each other are simply in denial because they have watched too many video games and don't appreciate that a .357 Magnum bullet to the back of a human head might make someone go away forwever. Maybe the Park District failed these precious little psychopaths.
You are in outer space!
Ok MOTS we get it, you sympathize with the girl. Some of us don't. That's ok. Pity? Maybe.
ReplyDeleteIf justice is truly blind then she shall be tried to the fullest for her crimes.
And yes before you post again..We get it you feel sympathy. We get it, I just don't feel it.
After reading these posts I must say that I am utterly ashamed of Uptown. I will reiterate what I said in a previous post; You all are NOT my neighbors. Your lack of love and compassion is astounding. Your high and mighty attitude is repulsive. I am mortified by the residents of this neighborhood, you all in particular. I truly hope if I am ever seriously hurt it is NOT in Uptown. There would be no one here to care.
ReplyDeleteHere's how the schools, community, city contributed. Schools aren't teaching relevant sex ed (they're also not teaching reading effectively apparently); the community is not ensuring the at risk population is aware of alternatives(access to safe and effective reproductive planning); the city doesn't publicize it's safe haven ordinance. That ordinance should be posted on every single CTA bus, every single el car, every fire station and police dept.
ReplyDeleteThere may be many contributing factors, like there always are with people who commit CRIMINAL acts such as this, but there is ONE person solely responsible. The INDIVIDUAL who volitionally CHOSE to wrap a newborn in plastic and CHOSE to throw it in the bushes. In the end, the INDIVIDUAL has to take responsibility for themselves. If people in this society took ownership for their acts and stopped pointing the finger at everybody else, maybe we would not have the crime and violence in our streets.
ReplyDeleteCome on. The schools failed her because of poor sex ed? That made this girl do this? The community? Now the CTA? That holds about as much water as saying the emotional stress of not having a Cubs World Series victory in her lifetime put her in a dissociative state of "denial" and caused her to lack appreciation for her conduct. Maybe the family did not have cable, which would thereby make Comcast culpable for not wiring in free services. Most likely, Todd Stroger and the democratic machine also plaid a villianous role. Give me an f-ing break.
And to Chuck, you better hope that you don't have to rely on the sociopaths committing these types of acts for aid, as they will just as soon clean out your pockets and kick you in the teeth as they would call 911.
And yes before you post again..We get it you feel sympathy. We get it, I just don't feel it.
ReplyDeleteAnd we get your lack of it. So you can stop responding as well.
Believe me when I say the gangbangers were the last in my mind. It is the wickedness that wraps itself in imitations of caring and love and goodness that is the most heinous. I know to watch out for the obvious.
ReplyDeleteSome of you people have the tiniest minds I've ever encountered. Do we know unequivically that the mother is the person who did this? So far all I know is that she claims/admits to be the mother. And yes, I do believe that if I have information which would alleviate/mitigate a hardship but withhold that information then I'm partially responsible for that hardship.
ReplyDeleteChuck. Trust me, I would and do help out anyone I see. I volunteer, and recycle, and I like to pet puppies and bake cookies. Maybe you should address a bit of your disappointed on energy on the scumbags in our streets - as they would be the ones to harm you in the first place. If you want to feel sympathy for this girl, that is your choice, but don't pass judgement on others for not feeling one ounce of empathy for her - with this specific act. That being said, I would still help you, or her, out.
ReplyDeleteBradley. Are you out of your hippie mind? How do we know that she did this? Are you serious? This is how you process information? Then maybe you are partially to blame.
ReplyDeleteI will steadfastly retain my doubt.
ReplyDeleteChuck - Yes, we're all horrible human beings for being upset about the attempted murder of an innocent baby. For shame! people I mean, people who commit crimes just need a big hug, right? No one should ever be punished for what they do... we should all just 'understand' why they do the things they do, turn the other cheek. I mean hey... we ALL make mistakes, right?
ReplyDeleteBradley - you should watch who you call 'tiny minded'. I'm sorry, but did you READ the article? The police officer who has been investigating this has been looking for the mother for quite some time. The article states that she stumbled on the girl, and when confronted, the girl told her she would have to tell her parents first. The whole family then came in for her confession.
1. If the cops weren't SURE this was the girl... the newspaper likely wouldn't of printed that the mother was found, they would of printed "A girl who is ALLEGEDLY the mother"
If this girl WASN'T the mother, WHY would she confess to the investigator? WHY would she go to the police and confess to her family? What, does she just want attention? Please! And if she was lying, I'm pretty sure the cops would know in about 5 minutes based off of the finterprint evidence from the bags...
Of course, IF there were no fingerprints on the bags, then that just confirms that the PERSON (girl, boyfriend, friend, family member, we don't know yet) that put this baby in the plastic bag was smart enough to wear gloves, and that just strengthens the case for attempted murder.
Man on the Street... quite a few people here have stated that she just needs counseling... Billy Joe thinks she should get the kid back after she sees a shrink. I don't qualify that as paying for her mistake. Sorry.
Farrell, there is a long road between upset and vicious. Most of you have chosen the latter. We ALL agree that what happened is beyond description, and I seem to see here that ALL agree she should be punished. The only ones who have called for hippie hugs are those in the lynch mob headed for the cell door of this CHILD. You and the rest of your, wait for it...ilk are so blinded by anger and fear that all there is is revenge. Wherever you can find it. Your "any action is better than no action" mentality is wrong. Plain and simple. Wrong. And just so this is clear to you, I'm not defending this young GIRL's actions, I'm reprimanding yours. She is 15, you are an adult.
ReplyDeleteHey Chuck why not go write about it in your "F religion blog"?
ReplyDeleteIm ok with you not liking religion, I know they havn't been very accepting of your lyfestyle. I understand your hurt.
Maybe you will get a chance to adopt that kid you and your boyfriend want. Maybe you will look at that kid and then understand that there is no compassion for anyone who would ever bring harm to them. There are just somethings in society that can not be tollerated. Ever.
Yes ferrell I did. Did you? I don't see anywhere in the article where she admitted to cutting, bashing, throwing, stomping etc. I'll admit I had forgotten the line that she admitted to "abandoning the baby outside". The article specifically uses the word "suggestive" which is not the same as definitive.
ReplyDeleteAs for my reluctance to judge people...
ReplyDeleteThere have been quite a few people released from death row in recent years who we were so sure were guilty and guess what... they weren't.
This discussion contains so little acknowledgement for a terrible tragedy that has affected an entire family, and so much rage, I can’t help but wonder if some are displacing strong emotions and attitudes about some other situations or people in this neighborhood onto this. Frankly, I also can’t help but wonder why the hell they choose to continue living in this neighborhood that has so very much that outrages them so very much.
ReplyDelete"Frankly, I also can’t help but wonder why the hell they choose to continue living in this neighborhood that has so very much that outrages them so very much."
ReplyDeleteHow dare we get mad at anyone for throwing kids in garbage bags! How dare we get mad a gang bangers selling dope and killing rivals on our streets! How dare we challenge a system of corruption! How dare we challange an aldermen who only looks out for her own interests! How dare we support business when another methadone clinic could be built!
Sorry Kenny, or any other unoriginal name that keeps popping up new that ends in "Y", yeah like that isn't a clue to troll ville.
By the way if you are "mortified" & "ashamed" just from reading blogs feel free to stay inside. The real stuff on the steets may kill you.
Chuck,did I suggest killing the girl? Beating her to death? Nowhere in any of my posts did I call her a monster, or that she should be treated as her child was treated. I said she should be held accountable for her actions. As I have stated in several posts, if there is evidence that she knowingly and purposely tried to kill her baby in order to conceal its existence, then she should be held accountable - her fate should be determined by a jury.
ReplyDeleteThat's not 'revenge' or blind justice... that's called being held accountable for your mistakes.
If they find that the boyfriend did this, or a friend or a family member, they too should be held accountable.
I am not some vigilante, so stop twisting my posts to suit your needs. Others may here may be more harsh, but I am saying that if there is evidence to support attempted murder, she should be charged with it. I didn't say we should all track her down and beat her to death, so stop making it sound as if I did.
My sympathy lies with that little boy who was mistreated so horribly, and now will have life long issues as a result. I am an advocate for innocent victims, and a proponent of personal responsibility.
If you want to talk about being heartless, not once did I read where you made any comment of sympathy to that baby boy. I guess the rights and the feelings of the 15 year-old mother are far more important than something so small it can't defend itself.
Any action is better than no action? - What is wrong with expecting her to pay for her mistake? Her son will pay for it for the rest of his life.
Chuck, it is really too bad that you have such viscious, nasty, mean neighbors who are disgusted and outraged at the abuse and near death of an innocent baby. Boy, let's hope you never have to rely on these vile beasts.
ReplyDeleteBradley, you are just plain nuts. Please, invite one of these sweet, misguided youths into your home for a sit down chat. After you give them milk and cookies and rail against the myriad ways that society has let them down, will they thank you with a hand shake or a pistol?
Let me ask you Bradley, do you feel sorry for the gangbanger who killed the other gangbanger 2 weeks ago? Are the schools responsible for his homicidal act? The government? The CTA? The police? Maybe that's it, maybe the police harrassed him to the point that he blew the brains out of another young man. Maybe the girl simply misplaced the baby. Maybe she tucked her empty slurpy cup into bed and accidently tossed her child in bushes.
There are so may serious issues that none of you are addressing. This baby boy sat in a hospital for two months after suffering lack of attachment in utero, abuse at birth and attempted murder. He never experienced one persons love for his first 60 days of life.
ReplyDeleteHe needs immediate intense therapies and an incredible support system to flood this boy with love.
I pray DCFS does not let this boy down and they immediately place him with a family that has support and many to love him.
People need to come out from behind the title and stand up and investigate what is really in the best interests of this boy.
He will quickly be a young boy, and DCFS has added to his abuse if they do not give him a forever family with many to love him immediately!!
The thing that made me tear up when I talked to Brandon Shephard about his finding Baby Wilson was when he said that the baby -- who had been crying for hours in his plastic bag cocoon, who had endured serious injuries, including a fractured skull -- stopped crying when Brandon picked him up to carry him to the fire station.
ReplyDeleteIt breaks my heart that the simple act of holding him was enough of a kindness to stop his cries.
I pity the mother for her decision, but my empathy and prayers go out to the baby. As I said in an earlier post, there are no winners in this sad story.
To compare this situation to the shooting is plain stupid. There's zero relation; you're comparing apples to oranges. When an individual takes a gun, has a target and shoots there's little doubt the person intended to kill. Though it's very unlikely, even in the case of the shooting, if it wasn't gang related, if it turns out to be a random schizophrenic (which we have lots of running around the neighborhood) who God told to shoot because the guy wasn't wearing a hat in the sun, I'll still withhold judgement until all the facts are in. I'm just not as anxious to be judge, jury and executioner as some here.
ReplyDeleteAnd ferrel...in your first comment on this thread, you very clearly had made your mind up that this girl was guilty and should be doing time. There were no "ifs".
Actually, I'm a little surprised noone is calling me out as right wing comparing what this girl did to abortion which is perfectly legal. Hasn't anyone caught that?
Let's NOT have an abortion debate. Seriously.
ReplyDeleteBradley, everyone has caught that. The reason that no one responded to is it is simply idiotic, illogical, and fankly offensive.
ReplyDeleteAgain, if you are so quick to blame society, schools, and even yourself for this girl's actions, please invite some of the white t-shirt wearing youth on the street who have been subjected to various problems into your home. See how they respond? Not all of them, of course, but a small and dangerous percentage are sociopathic individuals who could hurt or even kill another person with no more thought than swatting a mosquito. I am not condemming this girl, but I am certainly disgusted by her volitional actions and firmly believe that there are no excuses to justify them. It sounds like Attempt Murder is the correct charge for this incident.
Also, you are quick to point how bad everything must have been for this girl. For all we know, she went to an average school, was of average intelligence, and was well aware of the tenets that are taught in good sex ed programs (after all, she was sexually active). This is what ANNOYED me so much with your posts - this default logic of partially or completely excusing this girl of a heinous act, pointing the figner at everyone else. To me, it reeks of the same faulty thinking of blaming (and suing) the police when they shoot an armed thug on the street.
It is you sir(?) who has the default thinking. I specificall and repeatedly talk in terms of possibilitites. There is no way you, I or anyone else on this blog (unless the responsible person reads this blob) have all the facts. I have never excused anyone for any wrongs; I'm just not as willing to pronounce guilt as others.
ReplyDeleteBradaleey...
ReplyDeleteThis is my last post on this situation, because obviously the emotions on this are far to hot. But I'd like to point out, ONCE AGAIN... that I said IF -NOTE THE IF -very important part of my position on this - IF she did hurt this baby on purpose, IF her intent was for him to die so she wouldn't have to deal with the consequences, THEN -she should be punished for it accordingly. That may be jail. That may be psychiatric care - it depends on her circumstances.
I NEVER said, throw her in jail, toss the key, burn her alive, and beat her on top of it, without her having her day in court to explain what happened to her. THAT would be wrong.
I know she's 15. And I'm sure she was frightened. But even at 15, unless there is something seriously wrong with you, you know the difference between right and wrong. If she knew what she was doing was wrong, and understood there are severe consequences to what she did, and did it anyway, then she should be held accountable for it.
What happens to her is up to a jury, or a psychiatric facility.
I still reserve my sympathy and concern for Baby Wilson, and the pain and fear he suffered from the moment he was born. Bless Brandan Shephard for what he did. I read his comment regarding the girl, and his compassion is humbling. I can't say I would feel the same way having seen that baby first hand.
I wonder what Baby Wilson is going to think 10 years down the road when he finds out what happened to him. Imagine if he reads all these asinine comments many are making. I'm sure regardless of his and/or his mothers mental state he will never forgive her for tying him up in some plastic bags and just leaving him to die in some bushes.
ReplyDeleteThe FACT is the girl is admittedly guilty of a horrible crime, the court process is just going to be a matter of determining whether she goes to jail or a psychiatric hospital. Either or, the girl made a HUGE mistake.