Sunday, June 27, 2010

Shooting At Wilson & Broadway Sunday Night

Crime scene at Wilson and Broadway, looking south. Note the McJunkin Building in the background,
where the 46th Ward Aldermanic Office is located.

4601 N Broadway, the second crime scene secured by the police.

We don't know exactly what's going on, but apparently all hell is breaking loose at Wilson and Broadway. Readers report hearing police sirens and seeing police cars head towards that area at 9:35pm. According to a reader who was listening on the police scanner, there are two crime scenes: at 9:40pm, a man was picked up at Broadway and Lawrence, with blood on his shirt, possibly from a shooting at Wilson and Broadway. At 9:42pm, there was a second crime scene noted, at 4601 N Broadway. A reader tells us two bullet casings were found on the ground.

We really don't know much else. If you know any more details or were there, please add to the comments. We are sure that Lake Effect News will have further details soon.

Update: From Chicago Breaking News: "Two men or boys were shot near the intersection, one in the 1000 block of West Wilson Avenue, the other in the 4600 block of North Broadway, said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Anne Dwyer.

Update 2 (from a police officer): "Wilson and Broadway. Two shot, not life-threatening. At least 15 shots fired. Lucky more were not hit."

Update 3: CBS2 reports 2 Shot In Uptown, Person Fired 'Indiscriminately' Into Large Crowd, Witnesses Say

Update 4: As we suspected would be the case, Lorraine Swanson of Lake Effect News has the most detailed story about the events. (Gotta love hyperlocal coverage.) Pride Weekend Ends Violently In Uptown

28 comments:

  1. According to the Tribune the incident did not delay the train.

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  2. And yet this area is no longer a gang escalation area. I wish someone could explain how this was decided. Even our police officers are confused and frustrated.

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  3. Saw this coming a mile away after last weeks shooting. Wilson and Broadway seems to be a "retaliation" point for shooters in Uptown.

    Maybe, just maybe it is because a "large crowd" is hanging on the corner at 9:42 pm on a Sunday?

    Via Lake Effect:
    "a woman pushing her baby stroller on the opposite direction warned, “They’re shooting at the train.”"

    A. I doubt they were "shooting at the train."
    B.You HAVE A BABY...maybe 9:42 at night on the streets of Uptown is not the safest time for a walk?

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  4. I saw a car at this time speed down the alley between Magnolia and Truman. The car then turned into the subsidized housing towards the end of the alley and turned its lights off. I thought something was fishy but didn't know there was a shooting. Makes sense now. The car was a 4 door Toyota sedan. (I think)

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  5. I heard a third ambulance dispatched for a third person shot, just grazed enough to give him street cred. Usually when they're just grazed they call everyone they know on the way to the hospital and brag, it is quite entertaining. And pathetic.

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  6. Neil call 911 or the 23rd district and ask to speak to the Dicks (that's short for Detectives, OK geez) in charge of last nights shooting.

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  7. Here is another good example of why business won`t come or stay in our Uptown area. Mr. Mayor is your unconstitutional ban on guns in the city really doing any good?

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  8. Witnesses reported a shirtless black male wearing red shorts yelling anti-gay slurs, pulling out a gun and shooting inside the station.


    ok, this is from lake effect news.
    its confusing, were they shooting at other gang members or at pride people getting home from the event?

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  9. There were A LOT of people on Wilson at that time going home from the park and parade.

    As long as the gangs use large crowds to their advantage, the same thing is bound to happen.

    Can anything be done to prevent another shooting after July 4th and Ribfest?

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  10. What's even more awesome is that the south entrance of the Wilson stop was "out of order" this morning, so I had to walk through the crime scene to board the el at the Broadway entrance. There were a lot of riff raff hanging around (even at 8am) an absolutely no police or CTA presence.

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  11. I think some youths were spoiling for a fight and the Gay Pride Parade gave them the opportunity. Yesterday afternoon two guys who don't live on my block in Uptown, sat on a neighbor's car for 4 hours. They yawned, scratched their bellies and looked like lazy lions checking out the local prey. There are many gay men on my block, so I wonder if the youths were looking for easy pickings -- or maybe they wanted to engage in a bout of fisticuffs -- who knows? It was creepy. I didn't hear about this until afterwords, otherwise I would have called 911. Almost every night, I hear the sound of gun fire, which actually is not normal in most parts of the city. Our neighborhood is disintegrating, and we have reason to fear walking our own streets. Yet, there's no response or initiative coming from the alderwoman or the mayor.

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  12. This should make things interesting:

    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/united-states-supreme-court-scotus-gun-control-rifle-ban-chicago-police-mayor-richard-daley-nra-second-2nd-amendment.html

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  13. Good news. It looks like Chicago and other like minded dictatorships will have to comply with the Constitution after all. The Supreme Court pretty much struck down the Chicago gun ban.

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  14. Wow, this is pure and utter ridiculousness. The least Shiller could do is acknowledge this, seeing as her office is steps away from the crime scenes. Her ward is exploding in chaos and gunfire -- naturally she is nowhere to be found. I know she was in town this time, so that can't be an excuse, either. Neither can the fact that nobody was killed. Heaven knows she would try and use that one. Anyway, what gives, Helen? Uptown is curious to hear your thoughts on this and the violence the has become so "regular" on the summer evenings of 2010. Can't hide in the wood work forever..

    As far as my point of view on all of this goes -- well, lets just say that it REALLY SUCKS when I crave some Subway on a Saturday evening (like I did this past Saturday, for example!) but when I really think about it.. I consider that getting shot on the way there is a real possibility (is that a horrible feeling or what?) and that I can suck it up and make something to eat here at home.

    Yeah, the possibility of getting shot kept me from walking to Subway that night. That's just sad. I hate what is happening in this neighborhood, but I can't just leave. I'm locked in a lease. And besides, if I moved away (if we all thought this the solution to the problem), wouldn't that be letting the other side win??

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  15. I witnessed the same group after the parade walking towards the Lake and a similar local response. Those hanging out on the street were giving them a real hard time all the way down Wilson. North broadway is not as inviting as North Halsted....had a feeling something bad would transpire. Also great to hear on the El yesterday, a man (not from our area) explaining to his parents how the Wilson El stop is the one of most notorious/dangerous stops in Chicago. Wish I felt safe like he does getting off at Argyle.

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  17. Shiller has generally counted on the support of two major demographic group, gays and poor blacks. For years, those two groups didn't run into each other, and she could easily court both groups, but now we're seeing that due to recent events, she's being forced to choose one over the other, and given this event, and her lack of support for the pride parade yesterday, it's pretty clear who she's siding with. The North Halsted crowd are no longer "Helen's People". In fact, many of them have had the temerity to become evil condo owners themselves.

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  18. North broadway is not as inviting as North Halsted

    Of course not.

    There's a police station on North Halstead.

    There's an enabler on North Broadway.

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  19. What amazes me is that we have Police cameras at some of the craziest locations (Winthrop and Lawrence ... come on do we need one outside of a bank that already has a dozen or so cameras?) but we do not have one at one of the most problem infested intersections (Wilson & Broadway).

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  20. @BigDaddy and @wiseguy from today's NYTimes

    "The ruling is an enormous symbolic victory for supporters of gun rights, but its short-term practical effect is unclear....the justices left for another day the question of just what kinds of gun control laws can be reconciled with Second Amendment protection."

    "Indeed, in more than 200 pages of opinions, the court did not even decide the constitutionality of the two gun control laws that were at issue in the case, from Chicago and Oak Park, Ill. The justices returned the case to the lower courts to decide whether those exceptionally strict laws, which effectively banned the private possession of handguns, can be reconciled with the Second Amendment."

    So, as you can see, The Supreme Court didn't "pretty much struck down the Chicago gun ban."

    If everyone had a gun, would anyone feel safer?

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  21. Just can't wait for the 4th of July fire-works.

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  22. I doesn't matter how I feel. The question is should a local government have the right to disregard the Constitution of the United States. Should ANY government have the right to disregard the Constitution. How can you trust a government that denies it's citizens or in Chicago's case it's subjects, the right to defend themselves? How many people would be alive today if they were allowed to possess the tools needed for survival. I can think of five right off the bat.Remember those five women killed in the Lane Bryant store in Tinley Park? One can only believe that had even only one of those women been able to possess a small concealable pistol that all five might be alive today.But because their government denied them that right, they are all dead. And what about those elderly gentlemen on the westside that shot the home invaders that attempted to barge into their homes? Where do you think they would be had they not possessed a pistol? The answer should be obvious. I could go on for hours about this subject. I won't but will say this instead. In my thirty years of service to the citizens in Chicago I have learned many things. One of them is that inspite of having the best Police Department in the world, the citizens here cannot rely solely on the Police for protection. We cannot be everywhere all the time. Which means that you should have the ability to protect yourself with the tools needed to accomplish that goal.

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  23. If everyone had a gun, would anyone feel safer?

    I might, actually.

    I guess the real question could be:

    If everyone had a gun, would the violent, parasitic, gang banger a**holes feel less invulnerable?

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  24. How about a small storefront 24 hour police station where the popeyes was open?

    Evanston has a storefront police station on Howard. Good place for it.

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  25. How about a small storefront 24 hour police station where the popeyes was open?

    That ... actually ... would be awesome.

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  26. Maybe 3 hours prior, I was looking at Kid Robot polo shirts at the City Sports store at Wilson and Broadway.....I thought I would once again give the local stores a try.
    Honestly, I can only hope that the Target Corporation is calling the 46th Ward Office for some fact gathering.

    As I commented the other day, no one was there at 3:30.

    The irony is......a 'major Hollywood Film' was shooting a scant 60 feet from here a day or so prior...

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  27. @ Big Daddy.

    Last time I checked, Tinley Park wasn't in the City of Chicago, and not covered by the ban.

    http://www.tinleypark.org/

    "In my thirty years of service to the citizens in Chicago I have learned many things."

    Apparently that did not include geography?

    The handgun ban, no matter how you feel about it, really doesn’t affect most residents, now does it? Since you continue to bark about shootings in uptown, please find an example of a recent **non-gang related** shooting in Uptown that would have been positively affected by a change in the ban?

    Are you suggesting that everyone be allowed concealed carry permits so we can have raging gun battles at Broadway and Wilson, involving even MORE innocent victims?

    This is exactly what we need, more guns flooding the streets of uptown so that the next time Jane and Jo have a domestic dispute, someone gets shot. Usualy the woman.

    Or perhaps when the kid finds that gun, stashed in Nick’s underwear drawer, or in his night stand and plays with it and dies, you will be able to explain how having a gun in the house made them feel “safer?”

    You want to feel safer? Flood the streets of Uptown with more peace officers, make it clear that gangs are not welcome here, create and support a culture of strength.

    Residents living in fear don’t need guns, they need hope.

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  28. Thanks for the tip Buzz. Had it not been for you, I would have never known that Tinley Park was not in the city. I guess the point went over your head didn't it Buzz. Buzz, you want to buy into the fallacy that guns are bad things, go right ahead. You want to live in a nanny state where another person is responsible for your well being, have at it. Me, I'm not afraid of people who are legally allowed to possess firearms doing so. It's their right. Ever read the Constitution? Ever read a ruling from the SCOTUS?Oh, Buzz, when did you ever hear me barking about shooting in Uptown? And yes Buzz, I do think lawfull CCW in Uptown would be a good thing. Buzz, if you wish to hide your head in the sand, go right ahead. I will however continue to carry a pistol when I'm out and about and will continue to work towards that being a possibility for those who would like to do the same thing but have been prevented from doing so by people like the goof on the 5th floor at City Hall.

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