tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post824118925427740881..comments2024-03-18T12:16:39.859-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: Proposed Maryville Redevelopment Moves Forward In City Council; Revenue to Help Rehab Fieldhouse and House Viaduct HomelessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-46604981269299430552016-05-25T13:50:57.128-05:002016-05-25T13:50:57.128-05:00There's so much red tape involved in building ...There's so much red tape involved in building in Chicago, even when only private money is involved. Add in a TIF that was cut from the initial payout of $50-60 million to the developer (back in 2010) to $15 million today, and several different development plans (this is NOTHING compared to the 1050-unit that was originally approved and planned by Sedgwick), and you've got a long drawn-out process. This is the closest it's ever been. The buyers want to buy and build, the sisters who own it want to sell, and it's got a couple more approvals to go. This is the closest it's been since the property went on the market in 2008. Big projects take time. It's the Chicago Way. Patience, grasshopper.Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-12269131541803579012016-05-25T09:32:47.223-05:002016-05-25T09:32:47.223-05:00Just build it already!!! So tired of the slum enab...Just build it already!!! So tired of the slum enablers and their support of the viaduct campers--who by the way have ipads and grills and sell their drugs openly...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301381958049254465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-72067605393802254182016-05-21T06:24:00.051-05:002016-05-21T06:24:00.051-05:00This reminds me of all the people that kept saying...This reminds me of all the people that kept saying that Target would never come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-57190116699862017192016-05-20T23:29:51.138-05:002016-05-20T23:29:51.138-05:00Shiller used to get her supporters to picket outsi...Shiller used to get her supporters to picket outside new condo open houses to put fear into potential buyers (and keep them away from Uptown)...and she'd rig things to pack her supporters into community meetings like Wilson Yard's "planning charette" to block out people and proposals she didn't like...and she bussed in homeless from across the city to register and vote in the 46th Ward, making sure they supported HER and her policies. I remember writing years ago that if her supporters couldn't find room for people who disagreed with them to have a voice, they would find themselves not having a voice themselves when Shiller was gone. Lo and behold.<br /><br />The nice thing about all these new market rate rentals going in here is that the people going into them care more about value for their dollars, convenience, and access than they do about toeing a neo-socialist line dictated by the Shiller Politburo. Finally, the Shilleristas are more and more outnumbered here by people who don't share their views and who actually want city government to function for more than just a socially loud self-proclaimed underclass who would rather rage at the machine than do something to fix the machine. It's kind of nice to not hear so much of the nauseating, self-serving/self-important pontificating from the Shiller activists who lived high on the hog on the taxpayers' dime for so long...and even if a few of them keep shouting to be heard, they're gonna get hoarse after a while when they keep shouting, then they will be rightfully drowned out by the other voices of our changing neighborhood. And I say CONGRATULATIONS to them...they've earned the right to be silent. Karma is a wonderful thing!bear60640https://www.blogger.com/profile/04572732440461047198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-55591786951846711192016-05-20T14:00:54.185-05:002016-05-20T14:00:54.185-05:00Shiller ran this neighborhood like a mini fiefdom....Shiller ran this neighborhood like a mini fiefdom....she kept it impoverished and blighted. I'm thrilled she's gone!!! Spiritedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14828842905020483736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-60157386296715423362016-05-20T13:58:12.292-05:002016-05-20T13:58:12.292-05:00I completely agree with you.I'm tired of looki...I completely agree with you.I'm tired of looking at this eyesore. I'm tired of paying taxes to folks that don't appreciate the support they receive from us and I'd like to see this project finally approved. In fact I thought it was but the city council keeps meeting on this. The notion that this is a pet project of Rahm's is laughable......this project has been stalled at every turn. If Rahm really wanted to push this through he would have. Spiritedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14828842905020483736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-67871881225030175942016-05-19T23:44:16.352-05:002016-05-19T23:44:16.352-05:00This wouldn't come from TIF funds. The develop...This wouldn't come from TIF funds. The developers are putting $5.7 million upfront into the Low Income Housing Trust Fund (and $4.6 million towards renovations to the Clarendon Park Fieldhouse). It's the LIHTF contribution that would go towards the Housing-First initiative for the homeless. The developers would have to pay that amount anyway, no matter how the development is funded -- whether it all came from private-sector funding or whether a TIF is involved.Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-3805116533894932552016-05-19T12:30:08.121-05:002016-05-19T12:30:08.121-05:00I thought that TIF funds were supposed to be used ...I thought that TIF funds were supposed to be used to repair the blight that was identified in the TIF report that justified the TIF. I thought TIF's were prohibited from spending TIF funds on expenses, such as homeless services, that are part of the normal municipal budget. Uptown Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14046907325417364274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-85085431720959816552016-05-19T10:13:22.307-05:002016-05-19T10:13:22.307-05:00TL;DR: Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
I'...TL;DR: Don’t bite the hand that feeds you<br /><br />I've come to the realization that nothing will make Thayer and his jolly band of bandits happy. They complain money isn't being used for the common good and then complain when it is used for the common good (606 trail).<br /><br />The term gentrification is used and misused entirely too much. Every improvement, whether it be, fixing a pothole, repairing a crumbling building facade, or a new building altogether is misconstrued into some kind of fascist, capitalist conspiracy against the poor. <br /><br />There is a real disconnect between the demands for housing and full support and an understanding of where the money comes from to fund all this. This group seems to think money just magically appears in some wallets and not others. That's not how it works. The money comes from normal, middle class families who own their homes and pay the taxes to keep this city running. And while they’re happy to do it, they are tired of getting attacked at every turn for wanting a few nice things.<br /><br />I can only speak for myself but, at this point, I really don’t care about them. Let them live in their piss and sh*t under the bridge. I’ve already figured out how to completely avoid them. <br />When they decide they want to place nice and take some personal responsibility for their situation instead of blaming everyone else – then I might start caring again and try to help them.ThisGirlThinkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11300738762526742280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-28966060285712284372016-05-19T10:02:12.264-05:002016-05-19T10:02:12.264-05:00However...the "advocates" [enablers] of ...However...the "advocates" [enablers] of the homeless almost gleefully boast that the viaducts will refill rapidly.<br /><br />This is a naked real estate play to stop what some see as "evil gentrification", and make Uptown the Socialist Paradise that Slim Coleman and the SDS radicals dreamed of a half century ago...With the viaduct tent cities being a contrived prop.<br /><br />http://theragblog.blogspot.com/2013/12/michael-james-back-to-uptown-1965-1966.html<br /><br />The patchouli has long worn away off that odious socialist experiment.<br /><br />Now, it just stinks of craven greed. <br /><br /><br /><br />sidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06816559467149075091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-13259490909467573862016-05-19T09:50:05.819-05:002016-05-19T09:50:05.819-05:00are you going to foot the bill? after a recent vi...are you going to foot the bill? after a recent visit to the ER at Weiss there are many who "hang out" there in the evening and are considered regulars as told to me by the attending physicianUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683936915222270343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-13934430561666016562016-05-19T09:35:12.891-05:002016-05-19T09:35:12.891-05:00Please, Please move forward with this. Please, Please move forward with this. G Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00867682471061826969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-46694092668316719152016-05-19T09:32:41.140-05:002016-05-19T09:32:41.140-05:00Lianna, moving the homeless out of the area was ne...Lianna, moving the homeless out of the area was never on the table. Many of them have doctors and receive services in Uptown, so putting them out of touch with those who help them would be counter-productive. Housing them is the solution. Because they won't be "the homeless" then. They'll be residents.Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-18492573004412750272016-05-19T09:25:06.821-05:002016-05-19T09:25:06.821-05:00JDL owner and senior marketing officer gave total ...JDL owner and senior marketing officer gave total $10,000 to Emanuel. This luxury high rise simply does not meet the test for TIF subsidy. Let rich developers pay their own way. I have to. You have to. If you want YOUR ward's TIFs explained and exposed contact the TIF Illumination Project (http://www.tifreports.com) at info@civiclab.us.Tom Tresserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15031792833677258273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-60227011025011766842016-05-18T20:39:56.175-05:002016-05-18T20:39:56.175-05:00Additionally, some of the funding from the afforda...Additionally, some of the funding from the affordable housing payment will go to support the viaduct homelessness<br />^^<br />So they are not moving the homeless out of the area -- like putting them in the Cook Cty suburbs? Or somewhere out of Uptown? Nothing changes.Liannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825878578990955489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-37386436210794929102016-05-18T18:34:35.774-05:002016-05-18T18:34:35.774-05:00this is never going to happen, I have been waiting...this is never going to happen, I have been waiting 11 years, staring directly at this eyesore , that never seems to get approved. Then there is the large coalition of area residents, that want Uptown to remain a slum , I realize many other good thing are happening, but this one will never be a go...markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05431123157112617031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-10997919585841901912016-05-18T18:00:13.973-05:002016-05-18T18:00:13.973-05:00You're absolutely right. Ald. Shiller had some...You're absolutely right. Ald. Shiller had something very different in mind. She wanted <a href="http://www.chicagobusiness.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=9999100032937" rel="nofollow">a $40-$50 million TIF subsidy</a> given to Sedgwick, her pet Maryville developers (who did the renderings that are part of the official TIF documents). Later, she found out that they were putting through renderings that didn't match their blueprints and withdrew her support of them. But by then, she'd already put the TIF in place. (Sad Trombone.)Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-46552813731600289772016-05-18T17:52:50.579-05:002016-05-18T17:52:50.579-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tahoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15031645302485821759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-18463233298912278602016-05-18T17:40:57.482-05:002016-05-18T17:40:57.482-05:00Sounds like a misuse of TIF funds, giving luxury d...Sounds like a misuse of TIF funds, giving luxury developers $15.8 million so they can give back $10.3 million and keep $5.5 million. I highly doubt this is what Ald. Shiller had in mind. Cindysnoopyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08944798196843909344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-39566529431071112592016-05-18T17:06:37.831-05:002016-05-18T17:06:37.831-05:00Sounds like a win-win.Sounds like a win-win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com