tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post7758588655653813895..comments2024-03-23T09:42:36.833-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: Public Meeting – Proposed Maryville DevelopmentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-91348138130251874222012-01-07T19:00:11.943-06:002012-01-07T19:00:11.943-06:00This proposal is perfect! I can't wait!This proposal is perfect! I can't wait!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01460183739167123788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-30947339155294796872012-01-07T17:28:43.700-06:002012-01-07T17:28:43.700-06:00I was just musing about the buena stop, didnt know...I was just musing about the buena stop, didnt know if it was actually possible, just saying, its a long way from the sheridan stop to the wilson stop.<br /><br />And for belmont EL widening they actually had to knock down a couple nice old buildings, which sucks, but I guess it had to be done, it will never feel right the way it is now, but the widening HAD to be done for sure. :)Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-53728754922004181552012-01-07T08:38:16.158-06:002012-01-07T08:38:16.158-06:00"No one has mentioned how they said they woul..."No one has mentioned how they said they would walk away from the whole deal when we voted them down the last time, was hoping they could keep their word on that...also wondering if the community will be able to vote on this project again. If so, they should just do it already and end the debate one way or the other..."<br /><br />Where did you see it written that Sedgwick Properties promised they would walk away from the whole deal once they got voted down last summer? I thought people voted on whether or not to go through with that proposal.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, I want as many proposals as possible to be submitted and let the community decide on the merits of each proposal until one gets selected.<br /><br />Given the rough economic times, a lot of developers have their reputation questioned, but the risk on this proposal is on the one financing the project. If you want to talk risks on the community, the greater one is that nothing gets done on that property.<br /><br />The real dilemma is whether or not TIF funds should be used.holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-89214350229516518392012-01-06T16:59:08.299-06:002012-01-06T16:59:08.299-06:00An El stop at Buena? Where the beep would my buil...An El stop at Buena? Where the beep would my building go then?<br /><br />Signed,<br /><br />No, seriously, I live in building right next to the El on Buena.justanelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16070760979410211551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-33375118843563466062012-01-06T15:42:07.496-06:002012-01-06T15:42:07.496-06:00Or an EL stop at Buena would make alot of sense as...Or an EL stop at Buena would make alot of sense as well. To large of a gap between wilson and sheridan.Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-84435146354632605252012-01-06T15:40:35.312-06:002012-01-06T15:40:35.312-06:00How about we move this development to the gracelan...How about we move this development to the graceland cemetery. The dead people wouldnt be able to complain.<br /><br />Seriously though there really should be an EL stop at Montrose,<br />just something you think about when you look at google maps alot thinking about the pros and cons of this developmentPhilip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-25013048293515980442012-01-06T15:37:02.841-06:002012-01-06T15:37:02.841-06:00Clarendon is a smaller street true, but its right ...Clarendon is a smaller street true, but its right by the lake.<br />So that does make a difference.<br />Clarendon is a decent sized street with commercial businesses on it and a hospital, true its more residential around there, but we are also in a major city right by LSD. Clarendon is the natural extension of Halsted/Broadway.<br /><br />We are also talking about the destruction of a decent sized structure that has a catwalk. So its not as if we are knocking down a small buiding or single family houses and then upzoning to something like a supertall.<br /><br />There is already a 20 plus floor building at the montrose and clarendon intersection. And there are several tall buildings in that category in the surrounding area, so putting a tall building here wouldnt be out of character for this area.<br /><br />I can understand some concern about congestion, but this area is in UPTOWN, and is among the most dense parts of the city and its on the LAKE. <br /><br />We dont want to make it into a gridlock hellhole, but it is on par with Lakeview. Density is good, its the opposite of sprawl.<br /><br />Marine drive is alot closer to that part of Sheridan by Foster than Clarendon is to that portion of Sheridan.<br /><br />We shouldve all become urban planners.Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-64843406186484954352012-01-06T14:55:02.357-06:002012-01-06T14:55:02.357-06:00@ Jeffo
Thanks for the correction.
Now wouldn'...@ Jeffo<br /><br />Thanks for the correction.<br />Now wouldn't you say Sheridan is a bit different then Clarendon?<br /><br />We have a Jewel at Montrose and Sheridan too. <br /><br />Would you think (hypothetically speaking) Marine Drive and Foster would be a good location for a Dominicks? Only a couple blocks away.......<br /><br />That intersection has more in common with the Maryville site then does Foster and Sheridan.<br /><br />Go do your homework hero!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11678683729454882322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-47581810414635726852012-01-06T10:28:30.243-06:002012-01-06T10:28:30.243-06:00I think its a good site for high rise I just wish ...I think its a good site for high rise I just wish it was <br /><br />http://www.relatedmidwest.com/approach/index.php<br /><br />Proposing the project and did not use any TIF funds.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874891340143658307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-24278175597825361462012-01-06T09:17:57.925-06:002012-01-06T09:17:57.925-06:00oops I mean the doms
at foster and sheridan!!!!oops I mean the doms<br />at foster and sheridan!!!!Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-11882643382464130422012-01-05T21:40:21.530-06:002012-01-05T21:40:21.530-06:00Although adjacent buildings do not own their views...Although adjacent buildings do not own their views and access to daylight, those variables should definitely be part of any development's core design process. As solar and wind become increasingly important energy sources in the US, rooftop sunlight, passive warming, and wind patterns will become much more vital in planning approvals. The KfW Westerkade building (http://www.domusweb.it/en/news/kfw-westarkade-building-awarded-best-tall-building/), awarded the Best Tall Building in the World by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (in Chicago last November) is an illustration of the standards that architects should be trying for--because they are possible.gyldengylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04497398268451931292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-35756139755805419442012-01-05T20:21:56.224-06:002012-01-05T20:21:56.224-06:00As many have said, TIF money shouldn't be invo...As many have said, TIF money shouldn't be involved. If the project is viable on its own then have at it.<br /><br />No one has mentioned how they said they would walk away from the whole deal when we voted them down the last time, was hoping they could keep their word on that...also wondering if the community will be able to vote on this project again. If so, they should just do it already and end the debate one way or the other...The Monarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12874532309947998438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-15094975351166094612012-01-05T19:50:12.518-06:002012-01-05T19:50:12.518-06:00For those of you who are not aware, a PUD, Planned...For those of you who are not aware, a PUD, Planned Unit Development, once in the hands of the Department of Planning is subject to change without notice. The developer can present new plans based on their changing financial position and get the plan changed. Proposed materials can be changed. Entry ways can be changed.<br /><br />Also, the affordable housing contribution is a negotiated amount. They can easily negotiate down the $12 million.<br /><br />We should have a high density building here. This is a great opportunity to build transit oriented development, considering we have in place easy access to CTA. For those who whine and complain about "shadows" and loss of their "views", you don't own it. You live in a dense city, and the expectation that you will have sunshine and views, just is not there.<br /><br />As far as a grocery store, the developer should show the signed letter of intent by the proposed tenant, or all it is just smoke and mirrors. Many a developer has promised the prospect of a Trader Joe's, knowing full well, it wasn't going to happen. The developer knows this highrise is going to sit on a four or five story parking garage, and want to create retail on the ground floor, so there will not be a giant wall on the lakefront.Totohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134095614798025301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-84109682227171726102012-01-05T19:36:29.737-06:002012-01-05T19:36:29.737-06:00Homework.....
Yikes, thats just too tough to do.
H...Homework.....<br />Yikes, thats just too tough to do.<br />How about a Trader Joes instead there? That would probably make more sense IMHO.<br /><br />Okay Jeff L. you are right its Uptown not Downtown, how about the Dominicks at Foster by Broadway?<br />That is a pretty congested area and somehow it does okay there.<br /><br />IMHO those new fangled nabe words are dumb anyways. I was referring to the near north side, to me river north just means north of CHI river. The doms I was thinking of is right by the movie theatre there on grand, cross street being.... hmm columbus<br /><br />Voila this is what i find when i google rivernorth dominicks<br />http://www.yelp.com/biz/dominicks-chicago-17Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-60621811213316295732012-01-05T19:11:04.912-06:002012-01-05T19:11:04.912-06:00Oh that one....Thanks A!
There is a Jewel at Sta...Oh that one....Thanks A! <br /><br />There is a Jewel at State and Ontario as well. All the same...that is Downtown...and we are Uptown baby!!<br /><br />255 E. Grand isn't really River North though is it, not sure what to call that area? River East?<br /><br />I've always thought of River North as west of Dearborn or Clark and north of the Merch. Mart, fancy art galleries and such.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11678683729454882322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-6779403985921136652012-01-05T17:40:19.970-06:002012-01-05T17:40:19.970-06:00255 E Grand is the River North Dominicks.255 E Grand is the River North Dominicks.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874891340143658307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-34723594483703614252012-01-05T17:11:09.730-06:002012-01-05T17:11:09.730-06:00What Dominicks in River North are you talkion'...What Dominicks in River North are you talkion' about Jdeffo? The one at Division and Clybourn? You call THAT congested? With their over-sized parking lot....riiiiight.....<br /><br />And the Dominicks in Greektown. That area was under-served and needed a supermarket. And yes it is next to Interstate 90/94, but LSD is quite a different matter right? For one it does not allow trucks. Greektown is congested but not with parks, kids and seniors as is the Maryville site.<br /><br />Before it was built there was no supermarket even close, either way that Dominicks is much smaller then the Mariano's proposed for this site. Do your homework "Jeffo".<br /><br />And this site is quite unique, comparisons to Greektown or wherever don't amount to very much.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11678683729454882322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-64904116181236235792012-01-05T16:48:39.642-06:002012-01-05T16:48:39.642-06:00They want the TIF money to increase their PROFIT M...They want the TIF money to increase their PROFIT MARGIN. <br /><br />Why on earth should they get public money to increase profits?just some guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440005114587211502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-23866680252614464432012-01-05T16:35:10.930-06:002012-01-05T16:35:10.930-06:00I agree with Uptown Superhero. People can go overb...I agree with Uptown Superhero. People can go overboard at these community meetings.<br /><br />But whatever happens at this site I hope something good goes up there because it is a nice site.<br />Local people are affected more so<br />obviously their input should be looked at carefully. This is something VERY important to drawing people's attention TO uptown from LSD. Because attracting more decent people TO uptown is a good thing.<br /><br />Obviously many people dont like the idea of a supermarket there.<br />There are examples of supermarkets in congested areas, like the dominicks in river north and the dominicks in greektown by the highway that do work.Philip McGregor Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01580740928457414722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-55893985786036028802012-01-05T15:16:55.872-06:002012-01-05T15:16:55.872-06:00I can't believe this is even a discussion. NO ...I can't believe this is even a discussion. NO PUBLIC FUNDING OF PRIVATAE DEVELOPMENT! WTF PEOPLE! Wake the heck up! As long as this involves my tax dollars Sedgewick can phuck off.ChiTownPhillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01218910479704410469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-24850036881446151462012-01-05T14:29:24.245-06:002012-01-05T14:29:24.245-06:00Just remember the finished project never looks lik...Just remember the finished project never looks like drawings and proposals. Especially with Sedgewick.<br /><br />They are making a lot of promises in a very weak market for more housing. <br /><br />I could see being able to do the grocery store portion but the housing part I am very skeptical of.<br /><br />And once they have the TIF are we guaranteed what will be built?Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874891340143658307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-28412235832309117152012-01-05T13:03:26.597-06:002012-01-05T13:03:26.597-06:00It's time to say enough to TIF in this area. S...It's time to say enough to TIF in this area. Sedgwick runs a business, a business that like most others are slumping right now. They are looking to make as much off this deal as possible while investing as little as possible. That includes trying to weasel $30 mill out of the taxpayers. Why wouldn't they, it's worked in the past, seems like all they have to do is ask for it, or make the threat that they'll go somewhere else if they don't get it. It's a great location, someone WILL develop that property without the use of TIF. Don't know about you but I'm sick of paying a HUGE majority of my property taxes to pay for local TIF. What did I get out of it? A new Target store? Come on, we need to stop subsidizing businesses that are capable of generating profit on their own. Ask yourself this, what are you going to get out of this project for $30 mill?Dyin' Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13058966993512622613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-73394103551119365252012-01-05T12:59:55.564-06:002012-01-05T12:59:55.564-06:00All I say is no TIF money should be used for this ...All I say is no TIF money should be used for this project. <br /><br />And Sedgewick isn't exactly a reputable developer.Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874891340143658307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-13080086972976178762012-01-05T12:36:19.777-06:002012-01-05T12:36:19.777-06:00Davidh, I fully agree that something cool should b...Davidh, I fully agree that something cool should be on that corner, especially if it's a low-rise. The developer is telling us that given the price of the property (and given it's also lakefront property), the cost of a cool looking low-rise is cost prohibitive.<br /><br />If you can show the developer that he's wrong and you have proof that a cool low-rise development could work out financially, by all means, let the developer know about it. I think everyone would be delighted by this new bit of information. My guess is that the developer is probably right and whatever goes there will be some type of high-rise, but any evidence you have to the contrary would be great news.holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-78993224221396032972012-01-05T12:30:41.434-06:002012-01-05T12:30:41.434-06:00Same 20 people on this blog bitching about the sam...Same 20 people on this blog bitching about the same thing blocking progress and getting rid of an eyesore for the other 49,000 plus of us that live here... it is getting to the point of being comical.. I wonder if that one idiot will start screaming again at this public meeting? I found it really disrespectful to the other couple of hundred of us who also wanted to participate but were afraid to after his childish, constant, tirade.....to that person, whomever you are from the neighborhood group... Shouting and Bullying does not make you right...it only makes you a Shouting Bully. And it does not serve you or your community well, you alienate the rest of us that live in Uptown... keep that in mind at the next meeting..Uptown SuperHero!https://www.blogger.com/profile/16978617436727705272noreply@blogger.com