tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post7065199197185919937..comments2024-03-23T09:42:36.833-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: Teenager Shot At Wilson & Broadway This EveningUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-30560898617111306152013-09-05T21:44:33.890-05:002013-09-05T21:44:33.890-05:00Since this thread has deteriorated into insults an...Since this thread has deteriorated into insults and no one is even pretending to listen to each other, or even show concerned that a kid was shot in the head by someone who's still out there walking around, I'm turning the comments off now. Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-37362617166889482732013-09-05T21:17:21.587-05:002013-09-05T21:17:21.587-05:00BB, it's not so much that I'm a fan of CAP...BB, it's not so much that I'm a fan of CAPS. It's just that I detest people who refuse to do anything to address an issue and would rather sit on their ass and whine. It reminds me of a toddler throwing a tantrum.holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-89125435619595768802013-09-05T20:03:07.649-05:002013-09-05T20:03:07.649-05:00Every single property owner that I have talked to ...Every single property owner that I have talked to in Uptown has told me their assessed value is down. <br /><br />Trulia? Is that like wikipedia for the real estate market? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-36216945744459085262013-09-05T20:00:29.118-05:002013-09-05T20:00:29.118-05:00Personally, it seems kind of lame to want to parti...Personally, it seems kind of lame to want to participate in a program that's been gutted and replaced by compstat. Caps is the pet project of the politicians because it sounds great. In reality is an unfunded, powerless joke and does very little with even less. <br /><br />Caps is a joke because politicians trot it out when someone gets shot and it makes them look good. They tend to forget about it when they don't need it. Spare me the "go to caps and change the world" mantra, please, hm. I'm tired of hearing it and I'm not drinking that kool-aid. I don't need to go to a caps meeting and you're not going to win the argument because I don't go.<br /><br />The name of the game is compstat and the public doesn't get a say in how the numbers are calculated. We can talk about how that is just politics disguised as crime strategy if you'd like, but what I'm done talking about is caps. It would be nice if you could just state once and for all that you're a fan of caps just so we don't have to hear your retort any more. Everyone gets it. Can we move on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-7787062957330363742013-09-05T15:09:28.085-05:002013-09-05T15:09:28.085-05:00uh, PS, so if I want to understand you correctly, ...uh, PS, so if I want to understand you correctly, you didn't go to the last CAPS meeting to discuss this and you didn't call 911 when you saw these crimes being committed. However, you did post about it on UU.<br /><br />Have you ever been called a whiner before? Would you have an idea why people may think you might be one?holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-46240338997452552772013-09-05T12:49:48.838-05:002013-09-05T12:49:48.838-05:00Gosh BB, you may want to recheck your sources for ...Gosh BB, you may want to recheck your sources for Uptown property values. Per Trulia, they've gone up in the last year. Don't you just hate it when facts get in the way of making a point?<br /><br />It still has to be horrible that all city officials are ignoring your wonderful advice. You are truly a victim.<br /><br />http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Uptown-Chicago/2959/<br /><br /><i>The median sales price for homes in Uptown, Chicago for May 13 to Jul 13 was $230,000 based on 200 sales. Compared to the same period one year ago, the median sales price increased 17.9%, or $35,000, and the number of sales increased 81.8%. Average price per square foot for Uptown was $185, an increase of 48% compared to the same period last year. There are currently 192 resale and new homes in Chicago on Trulia, including 7 open houses, as well as 274 homes in the pre-foreclosure, auction, or bank-owned stages of the foreclosure process. The average listing price for homes for sale in Uptown was $280,939 for the week ending Aug 28, which represents a decrease of 1.9%, or $5,400, compared to the prior week. </i>holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-26479260721279902012013-09-04T14:22:27.762-05:002013-09-04T14:22:27.762-05:00P.S. if the CAPS meeting was worthless, what did y...P.S. if the CAPS meeting was worthless, what did you do to help improve it? (hint, whining doesn't count.)holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-71485101043677145822013-09-04T07:19:55.442-05:002013-09-04T07:19:55.442-05:00What does all of this have to do with anything?What does all of this have to do with anything?Peregine Sublimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04937344488137801347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-24457530685649815912013-09-04T07:17:31.730-05:002013-09-04T07:17:31.730-05:00Ok Holy Miley, I went to the CAPS Meeting last nig...Ok Holy Miley, I went to the CAPS Meeting last night and it was as worthless as ever. <br />Neighbors complained, facts already known where shared.The police reiterated they need more police. <br /><br />The city is broke. The Alderman says he and a "number" of other aldermen are going to demand more police. It would be nice if he could share that number since it matters in the city council.<br /><br />So what now Holey Mol, more CAPS meetings?Peregine Sublimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04937344488137801347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-7654818492245566622013-09-03T17:06:37.864-05:002013-09-03T17:06:37.864-05:00Here's the real crux of the situation. When y...Here's the real crux of the situation. When you have a high school graduation rate in the city that barely, barely hits 65% that's the problem.<br /><br />We can spend like crazy on schools, but ...<br /><br />if the parent cannot be held responsible for not sending their kids to school...<br /><br />if there is no leadership shown within individual communities by black leadership, hispanic leadership, white leadership regarding the benefits of a basic high school education...<br /><br />there is no constant and concerted effort on an area wide basis to get the message out that unless you want to be poor for the rest of your life -- get an education.<br /><br />Mother's against Drunk Driving (MADD) has successfully turned people's opinion against drunk driving. Heavy media campaigns. Where is the constant message about the need to send your kids to school and value the education. (And don't forget a GED just means you've managed finish minimal competencies-and not much else).<br /><br />Lester Maddox and the KKK no longer stand in front of the school house door preventing minority children from getting the education they deserve and have a right to. The only thing preventing these kids from getting an education are lazy parents or parents that never learned how to discipline their children.<br /><br />Every year there are drives for free school supplies at the beginning of the fall term. That's a nice thing to do. However, sometimes I wonder if everything is always free, do people value it? In my time my parents would not have bought themselves the latest smart phone if it meant I didn't have the school supplies I needed. <br /><br />I know my rant here will probably upset some of you. As taxpayers we can build all the schools or jails we want, but if there is no leadership and no ground gained on getting kids to succeed and finish high school, we will repeat this over and over again.<br /><br />Totohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10134095614798025301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-79070903903213401332013-09-03T16:51:11.134-05:002013-09-03T16:51:11.134-05:001) How many times do I have to say I didn't ev...1) How many times do I have to say I didn't even live in Uptown during the Schiller regime? I've said it enough. Seriously, read my posts and stop with this "you like Schiller" nonsense. Honestly, that's what is wrong with Uptown, and in specific this website. This website was established for the sole purpose of bringing down an alderman, then became the mouthpiece for the new administration. It is what it is, but there are a select few people that can't get past that vitriol.<br /><br />2) Just because I'm saying something you don't like doesn't make me a troll (and it also doesn't make me a Schiller fan, either). It means we don't agree. Obviously you aren't ok with that. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to be. I'm not trolling when I say that there needs to be a focus on Uptown, not on political careers. (I'm also not calling you names. You should look into that.)<br /><br />3) The alderman referred me to his master plan and walked away. Not much discussion to be had. He didn't like that I think his master plan is garbage and seems to read like it was written by 6th grade students. <br /><br />4) I'm blaming Cappleman for not doing his job for Uptown, plain and simple. He's more worried about kissing Rahm's butt and trying to get elected again. That's sad. There are a lot of problems that could be solved but it's just more spin and politics from the alderman that just wants to impress Rahm.<br /><br />5) I believe I've offered many solutions. Uptown Superhero, you just don't want to hear it. That's too bad that you don't want to hear it, but I'm not going to let you accuse me of being a troll simply because you don't like what I'm saying.<br /><br />6) Holy Moley, you should go straighten your bow-tie and get back to work. The alderman needs a refill on his coffee. It's pretty clear you work for him, and I feel like you should let the alderman speak for himself instead of being his attack dog. (You're not really very good at it.)<br /><br />7) The role of the police superintendent is not to be a liar. Compstat is a method for police brass to lie to the citizens they are sword to protect. I think McCarthy does a good job of being a liar - and he doesn't understand basic statistics, either. I've noticed he hasn't been giving his "crime is down in historic numbers" speech lately. I'm assuming the alderman -does- understant elementary statistics, yet I never hear him call out the nonsense that is being spewed. Wonder why? The aldermen should vote on a budget, not rubber stamp what the mayor wants. My issue has nothing to do with Jesus Christ failing. My issue has to do with an entire body of alderman, and the one representing Uptown in specific, being yes men to a mayor that simply wants to cut payroll and give 100 million dollar stadiums for private universities while the police are short staffed and teachers are being blamed for the ills that parents refuse to cure.<br /><br />But hey, whatever. People are getting shot, Uptown property values continue to fall, Illinois has a huge pension problem and the infastructure of Chicago is beginning to crumble. Probably best to have an alderman that won't think for himself anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-85782789889353028082013-09-03T15:22:55.695-05:002013-09-03T15:22:55.695-05:00TM, the alderman has open office hours. How did he...TM, the alderman has open office hours. How did he respond to you when you asked him about your concerns?holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-77451662631346798602013-09-03T14:03:49.136-05:002013-09-03T14:03:49.136-05:00Hey there "Tim", do you vote? Have you...Hey there "Tim", do you vote? Have you ever voted? Have you ever noticed a ballot on election day that lists judges up for election? You, if you have ever bothered to pay attention, elect judges.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05066555885429551674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-10386489180888143252013-09-03T08:49:09.476-05:002013-09-03T08:49:09.476-05:00So, "Tim," I'm guessing by #2 that y...So, "Tim," I'm guessing by #2 that you think politicians should be able to tell judges how to rule and pass sentences in their courtrooms? Yeah, there's nothing that could possibly go wrong with THAT!<br /><br />Also, you should learn -- just like how to spell your pseudonym's last name consistently -- the difference between City of Chicago and Cook County. Aldermen are city employees. Judges are appointed by the county.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-67694052483316788992013-09-03T08:36:27.530-05:002013-09-03T08:36:27.530-05:00So BB, makes sense to me except I do have one tiny...So BB, makes sense to me except I do have one tiny little question: What's the role of the Police Superintendent with deciding how and when beat cops should be used and how does that differ from the role of the aldermen? I ask because it appears your expectations would set up even Jesus Christ to fail.<br /><br />Just another side note that might help the conversation: You are blaming one alderman for a city-wide policy about how it should be determined that police are being used. Shouldn't the focus be more on holding an alderman accountable for ward-wide policies? <br /><br />You are right that they vote on budgets, though. By the way, did you meet with the aldermen to discuss your concerns about the budget? What did the alderman say?holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-13092823890605203402013-09-03T06:48:42.512-05:002013-09-03T06:48:42.512-05:00This alderman is a joke, He said the same thing l...This alderman is a joke, He said the same thing last year, However when push came to shove the vote from the 46th ward was YES on the budget. He keeps saying that the 3 hot spots will have 24/7 coverage. When there isn't coverage he passes the buck and blames the commander. We all know the police can't have three officers sitting here watching 24/7. So stopping lying and giving everyone here false visions. <br /><br />If you look at the master ward plan on crime, he thinks art and other items are going to solve the problem. The major issue isn't the kids here locally are being recruited into the gang. If I am correct ( based on his emails) most of the gang bangers involved in the shootings have address on the south or west. This would leave me to believe they are coming up here doing business and going home. <br /><br />What is needed isn't that hard here is the plan<br />1) Alderman stop being bullied by Rahm and demand more Police Officers<br />2) Make sure the judges stop being lenient on these criminals. If we lock them up and let the cops know that if you take the time and effort to arrest. The individual will pay the time for crime<br />3)Vote in favor of allowing the Supt. to install the broken window/ conditions theory in Chicago. It worked in NYC in can simply work here.<br /><br />I am sure the Cappelman supports will be all upset, but the facts are the facts<br /><br />We are having more shootings in Uptown and property values aren't increasing. Try to sell your place in uptown compared to similar places in the City. You all will see that nobody wants to move into Uptown, but everyone wants to leave.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12448978775220256760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-81846847040921833762013-09-02T22:05:44.325-05:002013-09-02T22:05:44.325-05:00No one told me the alderman makes beat cop assignm...No one told me the alderman makes beat cop assignments. I'm saying that there should be a policy of alderman supporting budgets that put feet on the street. From a policy perspective the alderman should be supporting a police force that believes in active policing. And again, I don't feel like anyone should be told they need to go to a caps meeting to state this.<br /><br />The alderman has supported Rahm's political machine version of crime isn't the problem your perception is the problem, vis-a-vis his support of Rahm's budget, and at the expense of the Uptown neighborhood.<br /><br />The alderman is a little late with his support of holding the budget hostage until the police are fully staffed. The message is being screamed in so many ways, I feel like continuing to ask people to go to a caps meeting to see action on something that should have been done a long time ago is a little short sighted.<br /><br />In terms of policy, it is the alderman's job to put pressure on the alderman and police to put in effect policy that works. Up to point, I've not seen that.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-45809935454970358562013-09-02T21:33:20.425-05:002013-09-02T21:33:20.425-05:00PS, I agree we need more cops, especially beat cop...PS, I agree we need more cops, especially beat cops. It's my understanding that this already happens and I have seen one on Wilson a couple of times,<br /><br />I'm curious though. Who told you that aldermen do beat cop assignments? Don't get me wrong, I want more cops walking the beat but where does the police commander step in with regards to police assignments. Does he just step aside and does whatever the alderman says? holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-77982515456065733972013-09-02T20:20:17.080-05:002013-09-02T20:20:17.080-05:00And I guess I don't understand why I have to g...And I guess I don't understand why I have to go to the CAPS meeting to say:<br /><br />1) Keep the police staffed up to where they should be.<br />2) Use more beat cops to be familiar with the area and people.<br />3) Vote for budgets not for saving your political re-election. Serve the community, not yourself. If Rahm wants to punish Uptown because the alderman from Uptown makes a stand and says: I won't vote for this budget, there aren't enough $'s to pay for the police my ward needs, so be it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-88101245364285415832013-09-02T16:55:33.066-05:002013-09-02T16:55:33.066-05:00The CAPS meetings have been whinner central in my ...The CAPS meetings have been whinner central in my experience Holy Moley, what difference has that made?<br />Productive would be for the police and alderman to actually try a beat cop just once as asked over and over. Enough....it has been said not done.Peregine Sublimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04937344488137801347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-53190061392217737772013-09-02T16:14:35.070-05:002013-09-02T16:14:35.070-05:00Do they think whining is more productive?Do they think whining is more productive?holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-78341094416014408522013-09-02T14:51:50.026-05:002013-09-02T14:51:50.026-05:00Why is it that the only response Holey Moley can c...Why is it that the only response Holey Moley can come up with is "did you go to your caps meeting".<br /><br />Hey HM - there is a large contingent of residents that find caps a complete waste of time. Cops think it is garbage. Citizens think it is garbage. Oh wait, the alderman loves it. Now I see.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-47421945520918397062013-09-02T13:26:34.937-05:002013-09-02T13:26:34.937-05:00Holey Moley
Not only have I brought up a beat cop...Holey Moley<br /><br />Not only have I brought up a beat cop at more then one CAPS meeting it seems like someone does at every CAPS Meeting.<br /><br />Or am i just imagining things? The answers are the same as the results are the same I am not even close to being the first person to say we need a beat cop.Peregine Sublimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04937344488137801347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-63027329750668178372013-09-02T13:22:18.613-05:002013-09-02T13:22:18.613-05:00You know what's so sad about these comments? ...You know what's so sad about these comments? Everyone's got someone to blame -- the cops, the alderman, the moderator, the neighbors, the people in subsidized housing. Call the damn waaahbulance!<br /><br />Not one damn person among you is blaming the person who pulled the trigger.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, there is one person to blame in all this, and that's the person who decided to carry a gun and settle an argument by shooting a kid in the head.<br /><br />But continue to fight among yourselves and blame everyone but the shooter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-49340418041900085502013-09-02T12:58:39.701-05:002013-09-02T12:58:39.701-05:00Bear60640 thanks for what you said, I figured that...Bear60640 thanks for what you said, I figured that out when NC said he viewed the security tape at the scene of the crime, doubt many Joe on the street get that kind of access.<br />For holy moley below no I didn't call as you might know transactions take place an all parties disperse and with no police near by calling wouldn't have done a thing but leave us standing in a corner where people get shot.<br />BigGuy below strange I voted for James, donated to his campaign and have supported him repeatedly so I guess questioning the promis that police will be stationed 24/7 means I trash him? Do the police go back to the station to use a bathroom? Hmm maybe since its not safe at those hot spots to use a public WC. <br />If you two think trashing your neighbors here because your views are different or even questioned than the real reason uptown is failing to keep up with every ward around it is YOU! <br />Blocking views that differ from those of the moderator and trying to scare away or shame others off a site that should be used to promote the friendly exchange of ideas to better the community we have all chose to live in is the reason we are failing. killerminpinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17326855314587952335noreply@blogger.com