tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post5221255227415042307..comments2024-03-23T09:42:36.833-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: Five Shot At Sheridan & WilsonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-31016198156307358952013-08-26T13:41:23.359-05:002013-08-26T13:41:23.359-05:00I would like to ask ONE simple question. WHY hasn&...I would like to ask ONE simple question. WHY hasn't anyone been caught AND charged in this heinous crime when there are MULTIPLE cameras in the DIRECT area . <br /> Or is this more propaganda & B.S. that's being fed to the uptown community. @ please correct me of I'm wrong in case I've missed something.un-biashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15024272677050153501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-22812872142572528922013-08-23T18:21:38.420-05:002013-08-23T18:21:38.420-05:00Found an interesting blog post on this subject.
ht...Found an interesting blog post on this subject.<br />http://jchmarketingchicago.com/five-innocent-victims-shot-chicagos-uptown-neighborhood/RealTalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355079079772993011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-55780810258775899472013-08-22T13:56:08.273-05:002013-08-22T13:56:08.273-05:00@RealTalk I have never said I've been here sin...@RealTalk I have never said I've been here since the 70's (I wasn't alive in the 70's. My handle is based on a family joke about my age/appearance). I have been in uptown for 6 years, and frequently speak to many people in our neighborhood in an effort have positive interactions with as many people as possible, and I encourage my friends/family to do the same. I simply do not have a high tolerance for those who cause my neighborhood/home (where I support a family of four) to be an usafe/less desirable place to live. It's funny, I have made NO assumptions about you, or accused you of anything, yet you make such assumptions about me...#wrongtalk<br /><br />oldmanuptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257519998071510820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-77189820959197562472013-08-22T13:37:59.793-05:002013-08-22T13:37:59.793-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.oldmanuptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257519998071510820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-47202878769584308122013-08-22T12:21:57.185-05:002013-08-22T12:21:57.185-05:00N.B. -- If you want to discuss topics, great!
If ...N.B. -- If you want to discuss topics, great!<br /><br />If you want to post for the sole purpose of slinging mud at other posters, go away. Your insults won't be put through.Kate Uptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08879015024297313797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-64204568197735752602013-08-22T11:36:29.995-05:002013-08-22T11:36:29.995-05:00Apparently the posters on this board have learned ...Apparently the posters on this board have learned not a dam thing about WHO is really in control of the situations. American Drug War: <br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyuBuT_7I4<br />Mike Ruppert - CIA and Drug Running:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rFWDHQcIG8<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15241519022887132645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-54028817383320963852013-08-22T09:53:32.874-05:002013-08-22T09:53:32.874-05:00@RealTalk While I agree with many of the points yo...@RealTalk While I agree with many of the points you made above, the phrase "mentally incompetent" and the fact that you believe sitting in a Mcdonald's makes you strong or more connected to the streets simply reveals that you have a superiority complex regarding your importance or knowledge of the issues facing the neighborhood and the troubled youths within it. Speaking as a mental health professional who works with many of the troubled youths of Uptown, as well as the surrounding area, I can guarantee that if your comments on UU are an accurate reflection of how you view yourself and relate to young people on street corners, then your ability to inspire change is...well...negatively effected. Your rhetoric on UU as well as your apparent self-importance are a direct contradiction to your claims of being "NO BETTER than that young man who occupies the street corner." Be empathic. Believe you are no better than those you help. But please #RealTalk, check your ego and air of self-importance and superior knowledge at the door. It really only hurts the situation in which you seemingly claim to help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-76024173398707472062013-08-22T01:06:02.445-05:002013-08-22T01:06:02.445-05:00I want to make sure I have this right. You want to...I want to make sure I have this right. You want to take action to address gang violence but you won't go to CAPS because it doesn't work. <br /><br />It's sounding like you believe the police don't know how to do their jobs. Do you mean they should have had already known there was going to be a shooting there before it happened? Other than be able to predict the future, what exactly is your expectation of the police?holy moleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18006600794546900502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-69582909332917807122013-08-21T21:45:57.720-05:002013-08-21T21:45:57.720-05:00When I say they were innocent victims. From my kno...When I say they were innocent victims. From my knowledge the victims did not have any ties to Uptown Gangs. The guys were either waiting on a meal or just served a meal from Uptown Baptist. I am not basing facts on Ald. Cappleman or The Superintendant of Police. I live in Uptown and unlike most of my critics here on Uptown Update, I get out and talk to the young men in this neighborhood. Wilson and Sheridan. Wilson and Magnolia. Lawrence and Sheridan. Desperately trying to make a change "One Life at a time". That is how I know these guys WERE NOT the intended target. At best this incident was mistaken identity. #REALTALK. I mean I hate to sound stereo-typical but very few African American males are absent some sort of "gang-ties". If I am walking down the street with a known Gang Banger. The police pull us both over and if I have never been involved in a gang, the police does a "Contact Card" I am listed as being with this known Gang member or self-proclaimed gang member and theres my "Gang tie". ALot of comments I read on Uptown Update are far fetched from reality or everyday norm. If you bought a Condo in this area. Do you own property in Uptown? I challenge you to take to the streets. Get to know your neighborhood. Not "Positive Loitering". Get to know the people who occupy the streets of your neighborhood. Once you are able to do this. I believe the the solution to your urban warfare will become clear. What is the solution you may ask? I'll let you ponder on that for a moment or two, but its not getting rid of section 8. We don't want to de-fund assistance to the homeless or mentally incompetent. You first must realize that you are "NO BETTER" than that young man who occupies the street corners of Uptown. I have been called an "Old Troll" on here but actually I can wager a bet that I am alot younger than most of the comm enters on this blog. I have public obligation to reach out and hopefully save one of those young men from becoming the next victim. I sat in Mc Donalds today and ate a value meal. Wondering to myself. Do @Big Guy have the "BALLS" to do this. I walked up on several young men on Sheridan in the strip mall and talk about the value of LIFE. @oldmanuptown you have been here since the 70's how many times have you done that?? Only way to bring PEACE to your community. Get off the blogs with your degrading remarks and into your community. #REALTALK RealTalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355079079772993011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-45116621294354554382013-08-21T16:52:22.846-05:002013-08-21T16:52:22.846-05:00#hashtags #nopoint #onblogger #hashtags #nopoint #onblogger Kristin Anderson Barrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10559039849597802551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-21080763242588937802013-08-21T16:21:52.505-05:002013-08-21T16:21:52.505-05:00Sean.....If you actually read my post's, I nev...Sean.....If you actually read my post's, I never....let me repeat it....never argued that those hit were from Uptown. I argued that this shooting was gang related....which, most of us with any common sense, already knew. I didn't challenge realtalk when he said they were from other parts of the city because it wasn't relevant. Not even a little bit. So no, I was not wrong...not even close. Actually, you are. Big Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091741747924920811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-81050305043407384212013-08-21T14:55:43.461-05:002013-08-21T14:55:43.461-05:00I have no problem taking a drug test . Oh wait, I ...I have no problem taking a drug test . Oh wait, I already have to, FOR MY JOB which pays for my mortgage and my student loans, AND all these government benefits... in fact, I already am tested to receive all those things. So yea, if you want government benefits, take a drug test. If you don't want to take a drug test, fine. You do not get any government benefits. Simple choiceUptown SuperHero!https://www.blogger.com/profile/16978617436727705272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-87589288842743414552013-08-21T13:24:51.294-05:002013-08-21T13:24:51.294-05:00I'm sorry, but who really gives a flying f#@% ...I'm sorry, but who really gives a flying f#@% where the hell there pieces of trash are from? This is what we know...3 were gang members and one was an innocent bystander. PERIOD! The three gang members are just that.....gang members, NOT innocent bystanders. Just because at that exact moment they happened to be doing nothing wrong, do you really think that they hadn't done anything in the past?? I don't care if they are from BFE, the fact that they did the deed here means they have connections to Uptown. Really, does the fact that they are from the south and west mean we have to worry any less??? UGH! It is beyond me how this matters....at all! Big Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091741747924920811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-63752018242079747062013-08-21T12:48:32.982-05:002013-08-21T12:48:32.982-05:00Stef how can you never have been scared? I look at...Stef how can you never have been scared? I look at your old posts and you have a child. You said there was a shooting by their window back in 2008. <br /><br />That child must go toschool in uptown now. Don't you worry about them walking there? The history of the neighborhood is good but can't protect kids on the way to school. Janiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15843594493460004100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-67471859035796366792013-08-21T11:28:31.411-05:002013-08-21T11:28:31.411-05:00Real Talk, seems to me like Ald. Cappleman has, th...Real Talk, seems to me like Ald. Cappleman has, through his statement, vindicated what you have been saying all along. You said that if the victims had gang ties, they weren't to Uptown. The Alderman says they have ties to West and South side gangs, not Uptown gangs. So you were right, according to Cappleman, and Big Guy and the others criticizing you are wrong. Though I am curious as to what you think brought these folks to Uptown from the west and south sides and what do you mean when you emphasize that they were innocent victims? I would suggest that every victim of a gun shot is an innocent victim unless they were in the act of trying to hurt someone else. But I also wonder if you mean to say these guys with no ties to Uptown gangs but ties to South and West gangs weren't targeted by the shooters and were just random victims. Because while they might be "innocent" victims, I think it is likely that one or more of them WERE the intended target(s) of the shooter.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05173712914081376243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-40531702999142156352013-08-21T10:50:06.113-05:002013-08-21T10:50:06.113-05:00I thought the McDonald's security would preven...I thought the McDonald's security would prevent this type of mayhem? I'm sure this violence will decrease sales in that excellent grocery store. I agree with "Realtalk" as the gang structure has broken down & it's a bunch of teens and late 20yr old "money cliques" fighting for drug turf. americanlthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05338645866208360060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-4952245555912099552013-08-21T10:45:36.757-05:002013-08-21T10:45:36.757-05:00Real Bullshit Talk, I have lived in Uptown startin...Real Bullshit Talk, I have lived in Uptown starting in 1984. That makes 30 years. I think you are an idiot and a troll trying to get people to argue. This is 100% COMPLETELY a Legacy of SHILLER and her hoodlums, her staff, and her Shitlerista's. When the pile of Human Trash is 22 years in the making, it takes a while to throw it all out. <br /><br />I am amused how our friends down the block that encourage gangbangers and have a bunch hanging out in front of their 'skate' shop are so quiet. Oh yea, they have that whole child molestation accusations thing to work on.. cant wait for that film to be released and the Feds come knocking on their door..Uptown SuperHero!https://www.blogger.com/profile/16978617436727705272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-77125205932895347132013-08-21T09:39:04.512-05:002013-08-21T09:39:04.512-05:00"Not every shooting is Gang related." Ri..."Not every shooting is Gang related." Right....just upwards of 90% of them are in Chicago.<br /><br />Again...."RealTalk" is either willfully ignorant or of the same mindset as the families of these pieces of human debris often are.<br /><br />He ain't no gang member. He was just about to turn his life around!Turbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11499921260529501297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-16918512363751066152013-08-21T07:25:18.716-05:002013-08-21T07:25:18.716-05:00Looks like they also need more police walking the ...Looks like they also need more police walking the beat with bullet proof vests on of course. Alot of this is nothing to do with drugs-just a bunch of punks wanting to claim certain areas. I would bet half these jerks are not even from this area to start with. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13299569785984359452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-23552423094787504892013-08-20T23:43:25.069-05:002013-08-20T23:43:25.069-05:002/2 We've got one of the best communities I...2/2 We've got one of the best communities I've ever seen in the city. Everyone says that when they come here, everyone knows each other, we've got real neighbors, shop owners who know us, librarians who know us, cafe owners who know us, all of us, and always look out for us. Uptown may have had some rusty years, but this is the most diverse neighborhood I can think of in the city, from Irving Park to Andersonville, with the best food and people on the planet. I've never been scared walking to the red line, never worried, and never felt like there wasn't someone I would I know on the streets to talk to. We have famous residents, who have lived here through it all, a mayor who fought to move back to Uptown, even if it is on the edge of our neighborhood boundaries. We can focus on the bad, which exists in all neighborhoods, or we can see the whole, and the whole past, and the whole future. Uptown is a place to call home, a rich, interesting place. Like many others, with a vivid and rich history. We can't forget this when something tragic like this happens. It's happened at the taste, all over our city and many others, all over the country. And maybe this is the exact right time to debate our gun laws. It's not a time to try to blame our amazing neighborhood and the people in it and it's fascinating history. Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433454925157098903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-11370730874043446972013-08-20T23:42:52.492-05:002013-08-20T23:42:52.492-05:001/2 I understand our neighborhood's history. B...1/2 I understand our neighborhood's history. But it's never been "one of the worst and most dangerous neighborhoods in the country." Not even back in it's most rusty days. There has always been an incredibly wealthy population here. Our mansion districts have never suffered from neglect or abandonment. They have always been populated by their home owners, never turned into multi-unit buildings during economic hard times, never neglected or abandoned. The saddle & cycle club has been the cities most tony and private country club since 1895. It's never left the neighborhood. There is a lot of wealth here and a dense area of low income housing, conveniently situated along the lake, creating an interesting, to say the very least, mix of problems. But if this were ever a "bad" neighborhood, I can't imagine the saddle & cycle club would have maintained it's space, nor would have our historic mansion districts. I don't know of any other neighborhood to have so many, so well maintained, with residents living in them for as long as they have. Uptown isn't perfect, and it's had quite a past, and it's easy to dwell on the negatives; but we've got some really great real estate here, a really great community, a very involved community and people working, actively, to always make it better. No neighborhood in the city, or any other city, is free of it's problems, with crime or gang activity. There are gang problems and have been in Lincoln Park, Lakeview, take a walk and see the tagging. It's happening on Michigan Ave, in the gold cost, in the burbs, in small towns everywhere. We happen to be a neighborhood with a good blog and we pay attention to our media, are active and engaged. Shootings happen everywhere. Gangs are in small towns and big cities, there are gang shootings at malls in Champaign, and in Indianapolis, St. Louis. Historically, Uptown was a very wealthy neighborhood, and that has remained for the most part. Past leadership has allowed for a concentration of low-income housing in a concentrated part of this neighborhood. I think low-income housing should be equally distributed throughout the city for the better of all people and yes, maybe lower crime rates. But when you look at Uptown as a whole, throughout it's history, what's remained and who lives here, look at the demographics, you'll see a stable, very upper middle class neighborhood. The types of problems we face are happening in Lincoln Park and on Chicago & Michigan Ave. I just don't see any active neighborhood blogs there, nor an active media wanting to scare tourists. I've lived in Old Town before I moved here, and I've lived here for about 10 years, and I've never felt scared for my home or myself. In Old Town, there are muggings, all of the time, home break-ins. It's not a perfect neighborhood, but I've never felt scared here, not for my home, not myself, nor for my son.Stefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433454925157098903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-18384154593795031042013-08-20T23:01:32.605-05:002013-08-20T23:01:32.605-05:00Real talk, What's your uptown background?Real talk, What's your uptown background? uptown1979https://www.blogger.com/profile/07604364502471298929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-54044511784316278242013-08-20T22:57:59.406-05:002013-08-20T22:57:59.406-05:00Gang affiliations are gang affiliations. I don'...Gang affiliations are gang affiliations. I don't see how those affiliations being rooted in another neighborhood makes them innocent the moment they cross into Uptown. Since they weren't gang banging at that very moment, they were just innocent bystanders? Not buying it. oldmanuptownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257519998071510820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-5121749233328225632013-08-20T22:48:16.630-05:002013-08-20T22:48:16.630-05:00LOL, wow so now you think you're a "real&...LOL, wow so now you think you're a "real" tough guy. I assure you I wouldn't show any more respect than what is earned...which is zero. That being said, the topic is not about calling you names, it's about a shooting in uptown. You clearly think you know more than the police, the alderman, the people who witnessed this, so logic is going to fail us here. You are entitled to you opinion, be it right or wrong. Thanks for yours, but I will stick to people who do this every day for a living. As far as your senseless kick about deployment, unless I missed something, I never once used that word, nor would I have....but if you can find it any of my posts, please, by all means, let me know. Big Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091741747924920811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-91196780805809486242013-08-20T22:44:44.900-05:002013-08-20T22:44:44.900-05:00RealTalk, let's try to make sense of this. Yo...RealTalk, let's try to make sense of this. You state that it the shooting was not gang related, which is contradictory to everything else we have heard from the media, police, and the alderman. Then you go on to state that some of the victims involved could have affiliations with gangs on the West and Southsides and everyone knows that gang members are not allowed to cross those imaginary borders to venture into other parts of the city/suburbs.<br /><br />Is this more likely a gang member opening fire on a rival gang member(s)? Mistaken identity? Or a tickle-fest with high-powered rifles and lead? Which one makes more sense in this situation? <br /><br />It’s sad when incidents such as this happen. Now add innocent bystanders who were in line for some food to the equation and you go from sad to downright heartbreaking.<br />Eidolonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08486771118481376883noreply@blogger.com