tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post2427608243842890305..comments2024-03-23T09:42:36.833-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: Mo' MoneyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-48267475444699833462009-11-12T15:40:58.735-06:002009-11-12T15:40:58.735-06:00I wonder what's up with all of her consulting ...I wonder what's up with all of her consulting fees? She sure does have a lot of consultants.just wonderinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07527021983888029704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-30861050753118435772009-11-12T15:05:59.907-06:002009-11-12T15:05:59.907-06:00Two things.
First her personal debt to her campai...Two things.<br /><br />First her personal debt to her campaign fund seems to have been paid off. Although, as of the last filing the fund did owe approximately $11,000 to various individuals. Some of those debts go back to 1988 or so.<br /><br />Follow the link at this post and enjoy.<br /><br />http://www.uptownupdate.com/2009/07/its-d-2-time.html<br /><br />Second, the busing and Colt 45 comment is uncalled for. God, help me, I think I'm becoming Suzanne Elder.IrishPiratehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11339255909419333238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-64326905097169210002009-11-12T13:39:22.186-06:002009-11-12T13:39:22.186-06:00How much debt could she have run up..other than th...How much debt could she have run up..other than the cost of busing her "constituents" in from the west side...and a few cases of Colt 45....larrynowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043170039944422324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-19303988013275251562009-11-12T12:50:02.053-06:002009-11-12T12:50:02.053-06:00"So I guess it is safe to say she WILL be run..."So I guess it is safe to say she WILL be running again."<br /><br />Not necessarily. In Chicago, a candidate can keep and pocket his or her "war chest" in the even he or she doesn't run for office.<br /><br />So even if Ald. Shiller doesn't run, she can keep any funds raised.<br /><br />OTOH, I hear she still has a large outstanding debt from her last run against James. Those 690 winning votes didn't come cheap, apparently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-54995704862884880302009-11-12T11:36:46.170-06:002009-11-12T11:36:46.170-06:00Not the best idea for a business to tick of the al...<i>Not the best idea for a business to tick of the alderman if you want to stay open. That is just the power they have, plain and simple. They are great neighbors I love having them there.</i><br /><br />Excellent points; but, there is something terribly wrong with this city if businesses are forced to bend to the will of the alderman.<br /><br />I'm not saying that is what is going on in this situation; but, it does happen.<br /><br />Excusing it as a condition of the status quo sets a bad precedent, and only serves to reward poor government.<br /><br />The results of poor government are painfully apparent in our ward, city, county and state - and is in no small part a contributing factor to the horrendous conditions we're seeing throughout.<br /><br />El Mariachi is a wonderful establishment, and a wonderful neighbor, generally speaking.<br /><br />But supporting a polarizing political figure, who does little if anything to mend a chasm which is recognized by all as being troublesome, and has a track record of less than decent governance leads to further deterioration of everyones' quality of life.<br /><br />Additionally, that the alderman decided on this location to hold her fundraiser should generate questions.<br /><br />I'm no fan of boycotting businesses, but as the old saying goes, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.<br /><br />I guess those who stand to gain from being politically connected don't see conditions north of Irving as being problematic.yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-83887467003909987792009-11-12T09:58:34.673-06:002009-11-12T09:58:34.673-06:00There has also been a huge increase of crime in th...There has also been a huge increase of crime in the south part of her ward. Although not as violent as up north. People are mad as hell about it and might be ready to see that what happens "Up North" does effect them.Uptown Vegetarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16070889236511581451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-3222632098945197452009-11-12T09:54:58.542-06:002009-11-12T09:54:58.542-06:00Please don't hold it against El Mariachi Inc t...Please don't hold it against El Mariachi Inc they are a business trying to make a living. If someone wants to have a private party there why should they decline and give the business to someone else. Not the best idea for a business to tick of the alderman if you want to stay open. That is just the power they have, plain and simple. They are great neighbors I love having them there.<br /><br />I would come just to voice my opinion that I should not have to pay 250 bucks to talk to my Alderman. Call it whatever you want. How many have heard anything from her since the event outside of Truman in Aug? Maybe you ran in to her on the street, "I am not hiding" she said. Violence has continued but no ongoing comments from the 46th office. I mean if they spend time working on "Public Safety more than anything else" what have they put together.Uptown Vegetarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16070889236511581451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-51831028580972621162009-11-12T09:41:45.191-06:002009-11-12T09:41:45.191-06:00So I guess it is safe to say she WILL be running a...So I guess it is safe to say she WILL be running again. Well, I guess watching her go down in a ball of flames will be much more enjoyable than if she were to retire and just fade away. This one has Karma written all over it.<br /><br />Good luck Helen.EYE IN THE SKYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092431939702582893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-37664966732094998252009-11-11T16:10:33.662-06:002009-11-11T16:10:33.662-06:00jms60613,
I'm just saying people should call ...jms60613,<br /><br />I'm just saying people should call such a protest/action what it is. Its not "positive loitering," its freedom of speech. Its political action. And good! I wholeheartedly support people standing up and taking action. <br /><br />My point is that not being honest with yourself about what you are up to (i.e., Shiller's "development without displacement" instead of redistributive justice or whatever you might call it) makes it so that you can't defend yourself well when wrongly accused. It also makes it harder to accept constructive criticism. Well-meaning people make bad choices and well-meaning people hurt others sometimes. A little bit of self-reflection can go a long way.Sassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023321034518238290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-28491167479439978802009-11-11T15:26:15.450-06:002009-11-11T15:26:15.450-06:00Sassy,
Doing nothing and letting Shiller spew her...Sassy,<br /><br />Doing nothing and letting Shiller spew her BS is not an option anymore. A political statement with hard cold facts like she refuses to attend CAPS meetings will tell people attending or people passing by of the reality.<br /><br />You need to give people reality based facts so people can make an informed decision. Not standing and providing the truth is just sticking your head in the sand. The election is a year away. You are making it sound that we are at the 11th hour on election day and everyone has made their mind up. <br /><br />Honestly, The people who really need to be informed are those people annexed into Shillers ward. The 901 unit Park Place "evil high rise" condo owners. The percentage of condo owners south of Irving Park is higher than those north of Irving Park. I lived in Lakeview for over 10 years and have seen the gentrification that Shiller fights tooth and nail against by seeking and encouraging more Section 8 housing. The real loosers in the war on property values are those that live south of Irving in the high rent and middle and upper class condos that were converted and built in the past 8 years. <br /><br />If the people in the newly annexed area are informed that Shiller refuses to attend CAPS meetings or even with concerned citizens, you better believe they will vote for someone that cares about safety and their property values. Shiller is the polar opposite where she is concerned about building more Section 8 housing and if you don't like it you can move mentality. Well the condo owners south of Irving invested WAY more money into their units and will not tolerate section 8 housing being rammed down their throats financed with addition TIF funds.<br /><br />If you think its a lost cause then you should just throw up your arms and say game over. This is just the 2nd inning toward re-election but I am going to fight for safer neighborhoods and will go out of my way to remove leaders that go against the public interest and their money. The time for toleration of crap is over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-32714159267019053312009-11-11T15:22:24.120-06:002009-11-11T15:22:24.120-06:00I don't think there's anything dishonest a...I don't think there's anything dishonest about positive loitering outside the fundraiser. We can inform neighbors without being disruptive to her little party...larrynowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043170039944422324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-81042729504772872442009-11-11T13:38:31.267-06:002009-11-11T13:38:31.267-06:00Thanks Yo, I had forgotten. Guess I'll have t...Thanks Yo, I had forgotten. Guess I'll have to stop going there too. Damn, I like their food...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-88089264369330742072009-11-11T12:51:10.466-06:002009-11-11T12:51:10.466-06:00In case anyone forgot:
El Mariachi Inc
3420 N Bro...In case anyone forgot:<br /><br />El Mariachi Inc<br />3420 N Broadway<br />Chicago, IL 60657<br />$1,000.00<br />5/20/2009<br />Individual Contribution<br />Citizens for Shilleryohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-39640195695710437432009-11-11T12:48:05.998-06:002009-11-11T12:48:05.998-06:00With all due respect, I am not sure if standing ou...With all due respect, I am not sure if standing outside of Shiller's fundraiser should be thought of as "positive loitering."<br /><br />The positive loitering movement is intended to visibly put "eyes and ears" on the street in order to say "We're here and we care about the safety of our neighborhood." That's a positive statement and a non-violent gesture in reaction to violence.<br /><br />Standing outside of a fundraiser is a political statement. I am supportive of people making both kinds of statements but I really do think that participants should recognize (and own up to the fact) that they're different.<br /><br />The election is coming up but Shiller is not changing. People who have had only negative interactions with her are not going to change their stance either. So be it. I'm not sure what is to be gained by dwelling on it? The point is to dislodge the situation so that the ward can proceed in a new (and hopefully more sustainable) direction.<br /><br />People should be forthright about their political speech. You know the Shilleristas are going to conflate everything anyway. Why give them more opportunity?<br /><br />I hear it now...<br /><br />"Look out the window, my dear supporters---those are the faces of my political enemies. They follow me everywhere but its not just me anymore. They are out to get all of us...all of us who support fairness and justice and equality. They gather on the street corners in attempt to make their poor neighbors uncomfortable. They are after you too. They are the faces of selfish America who have gotten us into this big mess in the first place! I have had many successes in my many years as alderman, but the work is not finished. Let's not turn this place we love, this place we have fought for, over to this bunch of closed-minded people whose intent is only to keep it for themselves and more closed-minded people like themselves..."<br /><br />Being honest with yourself about what your actions are intended to say. It is the only way to defend what is truly in your heart when you are wrongfully attacked.Sassyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07023321034518238290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-67567692978624464962009-11-11T12:17:24.921-06:002009-11-11T12:17:24.921-06:00Shiller would have to pay me much more than $1000 ...Shiller would have to pay me much more than $1000 to stand in my prescence for more than a few minutes.El Riderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16850720184628306378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-85101338919177390532009-11-11T11:17:45.608-06:002009-11-11T11:17:45.608-06:00From it, we learn that suggested price to actually...<i>From it, we learn that suggested price to actually speak to the alderman is between $150 and $1000.</i><br /><br />I'm liking the positive loitering idea the more I think about it.<br /><br />Not to challenge Shiller - I could care less, actually (we've made our point - dead horse and all).<br /><br />I'm more interested to see who is willing to pay to speak to the alderman.<br /><br />Kinda' like the police focusing on johns.yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-72557740030793583692009-11-11T09:34:10.869-06:002009-11-11T09:34:10.869-06:00it still strikes me as being a tad inappropriate.
...<i>it still strikes me as being a tad inappropriate.</i><br /><br />It is more than a tad inappropriate.<br /><br />It's a way to keep a campaign running, indefinitely - and only serves to strengthen incumbency (kinda' like holding primaries and municipal elections in the dead of winter).<br /><br />Each ward should have a dedicated website which is non-political in nature, and is then handed over to subsequent office holders so that the URL is consistent. <br /><br />These sites should be funded by tax dollars, and used as a tool for the citizens, not for the politicians.<br /><br />If Aldermen want their own website, that's fine. But the twain should never meet - and should they, election laws should kick in and punishment doled out.<br /><br />Too bad we live in Illinois where election laws are more like unenforced guidelines/suggestions (Greg, Heather .. thoughts?).<br /><br />For someone who made their name railing against the "machine", I'm surprised that Helen has adopted the same tactics should once attacked.<br /><br />Wait a minute. <br /><br />No I'm not.<br /><br />Using her site to promote a fundraiser only goes to further prove that Helen puts the "Shill" in Shiller.yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-68263470879344586192009-11-11T09:00:01.155-06:002009-11-11T09:00:01.155-06:00Does anyone else find it funny that she posts camp...Does anyone else find it funny that she posts campaign events on her ward information site but responses to high profile crimes or anti-violence messages are nowhere to be found? <br /><br />I get that the site is paid for by People for Shiller or whatever, but it still strikes me as being a tad inappropriate.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11504508393268637141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-53343364526755083792009-11-11T06:55:50.207-06:002009-11-11T06:55:50.207-06:00Shouldn't someone contact Kristyn Hartman from...Shouldn't someone contact Kristyn Hartman from Fox?Guitarjunkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18263308568873860859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-85529840914031108332009-11-10T22:47:44.607-06:002009-11-10T22:47:44.607-06:00Wouldn't it have been cheaper to pitch a party...Wouldn't it have been cheaper to pitch a party tent at Wilson Yard? But south of Irving, is certainly safer.Starck Madhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05608390964188305181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-14015539448458668262009-11-10T20:42:58.949-06:002009-11-10T20:42:58.949-06:00When her staff reads this thread, they'll prob...When her staff reads this thread, they'll probably move the event, but a positive loitering evening could be effective!larrynowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043170039944422324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-81626836291514406772009-11-10T20:18:51.850-06:002009-11-10T20:18:51.850-06:00I am all for a peaceful but visual/vocal protest o...I am all for a peaceful but visual/vocal protest outside of this hilarious event.<br /><br />The signs for Helen the Human Relations specialist basically write themselves.<br /><br />I think it would make a nice story on the 10:00 news.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208431925863173100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-38392503070291997342009-11-10T19:43:39.789-06:002009-11-10T19:43:39.789-06:00$150-1000 smackeroos?
Snicker.
I'm tempted t...$150-1000 smackeroos?<br /><br />Snicker.<br /><br />I'm tempted to go just to annoy her.<br /><br />Maybe she could have her baseball bat wielding aide threaten me. That would be fun.IrishPiratehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11339255909419333238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-21188755712370992782009-11-10T18:30:40.157-06:002009-11-10T18:30:40.157-06:00anyone else find it interesting that she chose a p...<i>anyone else find it interesting that she chose a place far away from the violence</i><br /><br />Irving Park is like the area where the grass and corn meet in Field of Dreams.<br /><br />Once she crosses over onto the south end, she's a totally different person.yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-27201577968242792752009-11-10T18:25:00.449-06:002009-11-10T18:25:00.449-06:00If people we do "positive loiter" during...If people we do "positive loiter" during her fund raiser, at least the violence free portion of her ward will be enlighted by her lack of action on the crime in the "old skool" portion of her ward.<br /><br />The people who live in the newly annexed portion should be aware that the same lack of caring will foster crime, more low income housing, more TIF expansions into the "rich" section of her ward. <br /><br />I'm starting to think her goal is to take the entire ward down to low income section 8 status. You can see it in the streets and lack of repair of the infrastructure in north lakeview. Patching street instead of resurfacing (Mary Ann Smith ward isn't a pot hole haven). Smith isn't much better than Shiller but at least her sidestreets are being totally resurfaced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com