tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post1393355692852579265..comments2024-03-23T09:42:36.833-05:00Comments on Uptown Update: "Majestic" Pigeon Roost Has Gotta GoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-40606064363284290392013-01-07T11:36:01.266-06:002013-01-07T11:36:01.266-06:00If you believe that Ald. Cappleman's response ...If you believe that Ald. Cappleman's response to the pigeon problem in his ward is draconian, and unduly penalizes human compassion, then please sign my petition, "Feeding Pigeons Shouldn't Mean Prison" on Care2 here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/602/890/327/feeding-pigeons-shouldnt-mean-prison/. You can also read my open letter to Ald. Cappleman here: http://thecompassionatecitizen.wordpress.com/. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-74207201980616002812011-06-04T20:34:10.243-05:002011-06-04T20:34:10.243-05:00@CP: At the BP caps meeting one of the residents ...@CP: At the BP caps meeting one of the residents complained about them but then in the same breath said "Well I used them before and they were alright"....one of the cops at the meeting said: "And you weren't robbed the next day?" surprisingly since they know how often it happens. Sadly unless you see them drinking or in some other way legitimately disturbing the peace you can't get them to legally move.Uptown Risinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403684989803659913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-44456352201189190672011-06-04T00:26:26.507-05:002011-06-04T00:26:26.507-05:00Like Antony described, somebody with proper traini...Like Antony described, somebody with proper training should approach this woman and see if she can be reasoned with.Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897850935620128528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-13318906106363194672011-06-04T00:22:18.525-05:002011-06-04T00:22:18.525-05:00From wiki-how:
Try spices. Pigeons don't like...From wiki-how:<br /><br />Try spices. Pigeons don't like spices. Sprinkle cayenne pepper, cinnamon, pepper, etc., where they usually roost. Be generous and repeat after wet weather.<br /><br />If their bread crumbs are mixed with cayenne?Kristin Anderson Barrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10559039849597802551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-16963623737721803532011-06-04T00:06:00.793-05:002011-06-04T00:06:00.793-05:00Speaking of the U-Haul guys, it sucks really bad t...Speaking of the U-Haul guys, it sucks really bad that a person can't take a nice stroll from the Uptown library to Irving Park without them leaving their "post" and bugging passersby. Anything to avoid working a legitimate job with some folks.Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897850935620128528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-82601939529042435392011-06-03T23:10:28.407-05:002011-06-03T23:10:28.407-05:00Can someone comment: Was she ever brought up in a...Can someone comment: Was she ever brought up in a CAPS meeting for that beat? Curious to know if they have any advice.<br /><br />We brought up the "U-haul" guys who hang out at Broadway near Irving Park and they're still working on it.Uptown Risinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403684989803659913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-5625871111932845482011-06-03T15:51:22.464-05:002011-06-03T15:51:22.464-05:00Not saying we do it...but what would happen if a g...Not saying we do it...but what would happen if a group of people took down that sign/facade on their own? Who would complain or stop us? That terra cotta peeking out looks gorgeous.Brianbobcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17762299406023279109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-69709705266919214512011-06-03T13:06:21.918-05:002011-06-03T13:06:21.918-05:00Apparently, as I've seen on several signs, Chi...Apparently, as I've seen on several signs, <a href="http://www.visualphotos.com/image/1x6789145/illinois_chicago_do_not_feed_pigeons_sign_in_park" rel="nofollow">Chicago Municipal Code 728-710</a> prohibits the feeding of pigeons - and carries with it a $500 fine.<br /><br />Now, if you look up the <a href="http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/title7healthandsafety/chapter7-28healthnuisances?f=templates$fn=document-frame.htm$3.0#JD_7-28-710" rel="nofollow">code</a>, it doesn't mention pigeons, specifically - it mentions "rats":<br /><br /><i> (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to place, leave, dump, or permit to accumulate any garbage or trash in any building, structure or premises so that the same shall afford food or harborage for rats, or to dump or place on any premises, land or waterway any dead animals <b>or waste vegetable matter of any kind.</b></i><br /><br />Looking at the bolded portion, the signs may be wrong in so much as it's not specifically illegal to feed pigeons (though, that is obviously a condition of the intent); but, it is illegal to leave vegetable matter on the ground as it is, by the standards of the city of Chicago, a health nuisance.<br /><br />I'm sure she's a lovely woman whose intentions are good, and she deserves to be treated with respect; however, she is clearly in violation of an ordinance enacted to protect the health of the pubic.yohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07400816063541009591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-88733407857291777612011-06-03T12:01:17.834-05:002011-06-03T12:01:17.834-05:00I was at the Tmobile store at Leland and Broadway ...I was at the Tmobile store at Leland and Broadway a few weeks ago and the pigeon lady was in an altercation with a guy from the private gym on the corner there. He was out with a broom and a bucket of water trying to sweep the mess of bread on the sidewalk away while the pigeon lady was tussling with him to get the broom and stop him. <br /><br />A small crowd had gathered so I went over to investigate. The lady seemed quite worked up and was telling people to leave her alone. She was screaming that the pigeons need to eat. I told her that pigeons have been living in the city for decades and are not going hungry and that what she was doing was a public health nuisance what with the mess of bread on the sidewalk and the droppings from all the pigeons congregating there, not to mention the attraction of the food for rats and other vermin.<br /><br />I tried to reason with her explaining that I understood her desire to help the birds but that leaving a hot mess on the sidewalk was not the way to do it. She wasn't having it and seemed quite irrational, screaming at everyone in the general vicinity to leave her alone. I could see it was going nowhere so I left.<br /><br />I have seen a sign at the Jewel on Montrose stating that feeding the pigeons is a violation of city code. I don't know if this is true and if so why it's not being enforced here. This woman is a conspicuous character in the neighborhood and I'm sure the police have had complaints about her before.Plutohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16889731388923735525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-5148953704543664292011-06-03T10:26:48.354-05:002011-06-03T10:26:48.354-05:00This appears to be an onging debate
Here's a ...This appears to be an onging debate<br /><br />Here's a story See Link:<br /><br />http://mobile.chicagoist.com/2006/10/26/ask_chicagoist_feed_the_birds.php<br /><br />QUOTES:<br /><br />There is a section in Chicago's Municipal Code (7-12-387) all about the restrictions on pigeons. However, while the code bans owning, harboring, or otherwise aiding pigeons, there is nothing that specifically calls out feeding.<br /><br />Currently, we're not completely convinced there actually is an ordinance banning the feeding of pigeons, and we've been diligently searching for weeks now. We just can't find anything specific telling us that it does exist, so unless an astute reader can point out something we've missed, we're going to say the casual feeding, while probably not the best idea, isn't actually illegal in Chicago.Larry Lelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02449991568046560141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-32150215732520722762011-06-03T07:53:15.219-05:002011-06-03T07:53:15.219-05:00Jason, can you please post the ordinance or a link...Jason, can you please post the ordinance or a link? Thanks.Toucanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13941502589080662724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-48265445150457822422011-06-03T00:31:31.782-05:002011-06-03T00:31:31.782-05:00HUNTER: it's true there is o problem in gener...HUNTER: it's true there is o problem in general with feeding any birds... But the sheer anoint of pigeons and the shit they leave behind is disgusting. As a resident of the neighborhood who frequently passes that area, it smells horrible, looks pathetic, not to mention pigeons carry various types of diseases. <br /><br />I'd rather see her at the lakefront, in any of the grassy areas feeding the birds, then on our public streets, where no one currently cleans them.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12742926445387871294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-87855949557062752342011-06-03T00:26:07.732-05:002011-06-03T00:26:07.732-05:00Feeding the pigeons is against city ordiance.Feeding the pigeons is against city ordiance.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12742926445387871294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-39511163298725163442011-06-02T22:17:43.796-05:002011-06-02T22:17:43.796-05:00Why do people even care about this? What's wro...Why do people even care about this? What's wrong with feeding pigeons? Bigger things to be concerned with than bird shit on buildings, yeah? Sounds like she's just doing something that makes her feel good, or that she wants to do. Y'all need more compassion and loving kindness.Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08009966392960274574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-70568848727973881692011-06-02T21:53:10.545-05:002011-06-02T21:53:10.545-05:00I was thinking a social worker could approach her....I was thinking a social worker could approach her. I'm sure I myself would handle it all wrong and there would be an explosion of craziness or worse.Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897850935620128528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-58199122055391132712011-06-02T21:22:43.272-05:002011-06-02T21:22:43.272-05:00Maybe NBC news can do a stake-out in their news va...Maybe NBC news can do a stake-out in their news van. <br /><br />Sounds crazy? Well check out the problem literally raining down in a neighborhood in Philly......<br /><br />http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Neighbors_Blame_Pigeon_Problems_On_One_Bad_Seed.html<br /><br />Our bird feeder is nice lady...I hope she doesn't get fined and a solution can be found. <br /><br />She just loves the birds.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11678683729454882322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-84060470946740533712011-06-02T20:14:34.604-05:002011-06-02T20:14:34.604-05:00You can see her each morning at around 8:10-8:30 b...You can see her each morning at around 8:10-8:30 behind her building feeding all the birds...like clockwork.uptowndadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01303472879911524831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-87211921397978186352011-06-02T20:13:12.702-05:002011-06-02T20:13:12.702-05:00This looks like the same lady that is feeding the ...This looks like the same lady that is feeding the pigeons in the alley at Magnolia and Ainslie. She lives in the building at the corner of Magnolia and Ainslie on the southeast side. We have taken photos of her and reported her alderman smith's office. We even engaged her landlady who informed us there was nothing she could do to stop the lady. She knows what she is doing is illegal but has a need to feed the birds anyway. Something really needs to be done about this lady. One women shouldn't be able to cause so much trouble across uptown.uptowndadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01303472879911524831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-27414606399026573292011-06-02T20:12:54.020-05:002011-06-02T20:12:54.020-05:00I've approached her...she is quite nice.
Not ...I've approached her...she is quite nice. <br />Not sure I have "proper training" however.<br />There is more to the story then the pigeon poop, I believe if people knew they would be more sympathetic towards her. <br />There certainly is a way to deal with this so nobody's awning gets spoiled. Not sure this is the time and place to discuss.<br /><br />That sign however must come down, professionally I would hope so the terracotta doesn't get damaged in the process would be nice. <br /><br />Under the sign and the washable grime this is a sweet little vintage storefront here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11678683729454882322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1957537260422450632.post-32202591150187981132011-06-02T19:17:22.806-05:002011-06-02T19:17:22.806-05:00Could somebody with proper training approach this ...Could somebody with proper training approach this woman and try to find out exactly what she thinks she's doing?<br />Makes me think of a guy at my former residence who "befriended" the mice and rats in his apartment. Ugh.Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16897850935620128528noreply@blogger.com