Comments on Uptown Update: 3 Bodies Found At Hotel Chateau

get a better paying job and move downtown if you d...

2008-10-02T16:37:00.000-05:00

get a better paying job and move downtown if you dont like living uptown. stop being a failure in life.

if you are broke enough to live uptown. blame your...

2008-10-02T16:35:00.000-05:00

if you are broke enough to live uptown. blame your own failures. and not the vulnerable who uptown is home to

No one deserves to die. But, if you play with fir...

2008-09-30T08:58:00.000-05:00

No one deserves to die. But, if you play with fire you will eventually get burned. I personally do not feel one ounce of sympathy for the victims. For their families, yes, but for the victims, no. The Chateau is an absolute cess pool filled with crime, drugs, prostitution, societal leeches and human cockroaches.

man on the street...your comment would have been m...

2008-09-30T05:21:00.000-05:00

man on the street...your comment would have been more effective if it would have linked to the statistic which shows that most of the Chateau's residents are gainfully employed.

One of these individuals was a cousin of mine. I d...

2008-09-29T16:56:00.000-05:00

One of these individuals was a cousin of mine. I do know he is survived by younger brothers, a younger sister, parents and grandparents that all loved him deeply & tried to help him. People should be respectful & keep this in mind when speaking ill of the dead (especially with such unfounded speculation!) The manner of death may certainly be sad and suspicious - but that does not mean his family deserves to be subjected to some of these comments

What are the chances that they were hard working, ...

2008-09-29T16:52:00.000-05:00

What are the chances that they were hard working, upstanding citizens?

Pretty good chances

Kenny, I fully accept that you believe low expecta...

2008-09-28T14:31:00.000-05:00

Kenny, I fully accept that you believe low expectations are okay for people. I don't agree with it, but I know there's a declining group of people like you who do.

However, I'm curious. Have you ever heard the term "enabling"? Any thoughts about how it?

It's only God's grace that keeps you from ODing on...

2008-09-27T20:01:00.000-05:00

It's only God's grace that keeps you from ODing on heroin with two buddies in a fleabag motel?

Wow.

From the Sun-Times: "The three have been identified as Anthony Schiller, Daniel Whittle and Cynthia Catrell, according to a spokesman, who said the three had lived at the hotel for "a couple of years.""

There, but for the grace of God, go I.

2008-09-27T17:13:00.000-05:00

There, but for the grace of God, go I.

I believe the oldest person was 50 and the younges...

2008-09-27T15:56:00.000-05:00

I believe the oldest person was 50 and the youngest was 32. I am not sure how old the female was. People don't OD from crack. The cause was most likely heroin.

And yes most people staying at the Chateau are on SSI or SSDI.

And the point the sergeant was trying to make is the intervention needs to start at a much earlier age than 13 for it to have a lasting effect on the child. At 13 outside influences are hard to overcome.

This is not about the horrible government bailout ...

2008-09-27T14:01:00.000-05:00

This is not about the horrible government bailout - that is a different conversation entirely - this is about three people who overdosed on narcotics in our neighborhood. To my original point, I personally could not care less. My feelings, or lack thereof, are consistent with those when a gangbanger or drug dealer or robber gets killed. It is simply a case of three (probably needle sharing) junkies facing the consequences of their dangerous, criminal actions. Good riddance. Too bad the Chateau does not close.

It is not about the government's bottom line, it i...

2008-09-27T13:42:00.000-05:00

It is not about the government's bottom line, it is about scumbags bilking the system.

A proposed $700 billion bailout and we hardly bat an eye because those "scumbags" wear $2,000 suits. Give me a frikkin' break.

While a lot - most - of people on disability need ...

2008-09-27T12:39:00.000-05:00

While a lot - most - of people on disability need it, many are cons simply scamming the system. They get a diagnosis of "bipolar" or "schizophrenia" at a strip mall doctor shop, despite having no bonafide symptoms, then they smoke $900 of crack as soon as they get their monthly checks, then they show up an ER and demand to be hospitalized and chill out in a bed (and preey on other patients) that should be going to someone who needs and is invested in treatment. I see it happen constantly.

It is not about the government's bottom line, it is about scumbags bilking the system. So, I agree that these are likely three less problems. If you repeatedly wave your hand in a pirana tank, you will eventually get bitten.

I feel almost sick when people talk about the gove...

2008-09-27T12:32:00.000-05:00

I feel almost sick when people talk about the government's bottom line as being more important than human life.

People who OD on drugs are completely responsible for their behavior. That doesn't mean we get to forget they are humans.

Just because you can't see their disability doesn't mean they are unable to work. A lot of these people are veterans who did their service for the government and came back with serious mental illness, for example.

You are an adult, you chose to live in this area. It's not like these people just popped up one day. Hoping that they die to save the government money isn't the solution.

I agree completely with chicago citizen. I feel n...

2008-09-27T12:24:00.000-05:00

I agree completely with chicago citizen. I feel no sympathy when a gang member gets killed. These junkies play Russian roulette, so they get what they get.

How many felonious acts do you think are committed on a daily basis by many of the wonderful citizens of the Hotel Chateau? I know for a fact that a resident was recently arrested for brutally attacking a senior citizen in a wheel chair on Broadway. Good riddance to these three.

"the sergeant in charge of the meeting seriously c...

2008-09-27T12:18:00.000-05:00

"the sergeant in charge of the meeting seriously claimed that kids at the age of thirteen were too old to be helped! Really?"

Well that is his educated opinion. He lives the life so he can talk the talk. We might brush up against this stuff, he reads the reports. he sees statistics we don't.

Now I feel bad for the first person who took the bad drugs, maybe even a tad for the second person, but come on why did the third person take the drugs after the first two fished out?

Ouch that looks like it hurts, here let me try.

That's a lotta bodies. Must have been some real b...

2008-09-27T11:45:00.000-05:00

That's a lotta bodies. Must have been some real bad stuff.

Watch sales soar for that "brand" of drug. I kid you not. Everything you need to know about urban life can be gleaned from three shows on Baltimore: "The Wire", "Homicide", and "The Corner".

Drug users love the dangerous stuff because they think it will get them "higher". A few years back there was some deadly heroin on the West Side of Chicago and even with all the deaths folks were scrambling to get a hold of that stuff.

Seems crazy to those of us who aren't addicts.

blanket stereotypes are for unimaginative, xenopho...

2008-09-27T11:17:00.000-05:00

blanket stereotypes are for unimaginative, xenophobic morons.

"I meant the majority of people."If I take stock o...

2008-09-27T10:53:00.000-05:00

"I meant the majority of people."

If I take stock of the neighbors I know in Uptown, very few share the views of the "majority" you describe. Your comment reminds me of when COURAJ members used to say that "all condo owners use cocaine" as a justification to not go after drug dealers. That generalization was just a ludicris as the generalizations being thrown around here.

Personally, I'm proud to live in a community where so many neighbors do care about each other, regardless of color, income level, sexual orientation, cultural background, family structure, etc.

The one thing that raises my ire, though, are very specific extremists who make blanket accusations just to stir up people's hatred. Our Alderman comes to mind.

I apologize, caring neighbor, when I said "the peo...

2008-09-27T10:44:00.000-05:00

I apologize, caring neighbor, when I said "the people" I meant the majority of people.

The people on this site (and in CAPS meetings) see...

2008-09-27T10:38:00.000-05:00

The people on this site (and in CAPS meetings) seem to be consistently ready to give up on people and assume the worst of individuals.

Give me a break. Your own generalization about "people on this site" completely disregards the very first comment, which begins "this is a sad story." Talk about generalizing?

And the people on this site donate school supplies. They volunteer at the schools. They go to anti-violence rallies.

You'll always find someone whose views are diametrically opposed to yours. Don't generalize and make it "everyone on this site."

While we do tend to generalize, I would lean towar...

2008-09-27T10:01:00.000-05:00

While we do tend to generalize, I would lean towards the summary of chicagocitizen. While it's nice to always give people the benefit of doubt, we live in Uptown and the reality of this type of lifestyle is in our faces every time we walk outside. It's an unfortunate waste of a human being.

The people on this site (and in CAPS meetings) see...

2008-09-27T09:34:00.000-05:00

The people on this site (and in CAPS meetings) seem to be consistently ready to give up on people and assume the worst of individuals. For instance I was at a CAPS meeting (at Truman) and the sergeant in charge of the meeting seriously claimed that kids at the age of thirteen were too old to be helped! Really? You mean to tell me that at the age of thirteen a persons life is set for the next eighty years? It's the same thing with this. Even though I don't doubt that these people were wasting public funds they didn't deserve to die for it as chicagocitizen seems to believe.

Good riddance.

2008-09-27T09:15:00.000-05:00

Good riddance.

They were junkies living at the Chateau who died o...

2008-09-27T08:46:00.000-05:00

They were junkies living at the Chateau who died of drug overdoses in one room. What are the chances that they were hard working, upstanding citizens? Get real! I see it everyday, drug users robbing, attacking, stealing. People freely admitting that they shoot or smoke every penny of their disability checks - most of whom have ZERO cause to be on disability. That is a major problem with our disability system, human leeches using tax payer money to buy dope, prostitutes, and Air Jordans.