Comments on Uptown Update: Reminder: Ald. Shiller Q&A Tonight @ 7:30PM

Abhay, The discount rate example offered by Ald S...

2009-11-19T05:37:55.897-06:00

Abhay,

The discount rate example offered by Ald Shiller was that some city assets (water) have known future value, while others (parking), have less certain value (my words: we may all be using flying saucers in 75 years, after all, but we'll all drink water). Need to check a few things before posting further on this...

She mentioned to an individual after the meeting t...

2009-11-18T17:59:32.377-06:00

She mentioned to an individual after the meeting that "I love to do these things! I will speak where ever I am invited."

She also said that she doesn't attend public meetings because of the backlash she receives from her political opponents.

Once again, she can't square the truth.

@TrumanSquare: Oh, Helen sees it alright. She ju...

2009-11-18T14:44:25.028-06:00

@TrumanSquare:

Oh, Helen sees it alright. She just doesn't agree nor does she care. Remember, the advice of her and her staff is to move if you don't like what she terms as a normal part of life in the city.

For each person who heeds her advice, there is one less vote she has to be concerned about. I just hope enough people are sticking around and fed up with her and her pet projects solely designed to increase her voting base.

If the gang riots with swinging golf clubs and bas...

2009-11-18T13:41:22.917-06:00

If the gang riots with swinging golf clubs and baseball bats are "attempted fisticuffs," then...

... are the recent shootings just "boyish games of cowboys and Indians"?

... is the recent car fire just "kids playing with matches their parents careless left around"?

She is truly, truly delusional. She just doesn't see that people are afraid for their lives in Uptown. It's breath-taking, actually.

Can't WAIT for Election Day 2011!

Since "discount rates" are more in my line of work...

2009-11-18T11:31:56.930-06:00

Since "discount rates" are more in my line of work, I'd love to hear more about it.

Ken, I hope that other "irishpirate" from outside...

2009-11-18T10:56:32.443-06:00

Ken,

I hope that other "irishpirate" from outside the neighborhood didn't offend you too much. It's people from outside the neighborhood who cause the fisticuffs on this board.

On a more serious note, there ya go Ken, Shiller is nuts or lying or a lying nut if she thinks the folks doing the street dancing are from outside the hood.

I'm sure a percentage of them are bangers from other hoods visiting their compatriots, but the majority clearly live in the hood. Some may not "officially" live here, but they are just "staying" with their banger buddies long term.

The horrible thing is Shiller seems to consider the condo owners a bigger threat and meaner gang that these "visitors".

Hey, I just thought about the benefit of importing some bangers. Who says we don't have outsiders visiting our thriving business districts!

Take that Insane Condo Owner Mighty Nation bangers!

Who uses the term "fisticuffs" anymore anyway? It...

2009-11-18T10:47:20.302-06:00

Who uses the term "fisticuffs" anymore anyway? It was a damn brawl in the middle of the street. Totally unacceptable in any ward.

She must have though that by using a commonly unused term she would sound more intelligent. Shillerspeak.

"Just curious, if anyone anyone at the meeting que...

2009-11-18T10:42:21.960-06:00

"Just curious, if anyone anyone at the meeting questioned why these rare 'town hall' meetings don't happen up here in the thick of things?"

She mentioned to an individual after the meeting that "I love to do these things! I will speak where ever I am invited."

Maybe block clubs in the 2312 and 2313 beats can invite her to a quarterly meeting or something similar to what the Belmont Harbor Neighbors club put together. Just a thought!

Judging by her responses it appears she has become...

2009-11-18T10:16:53.951-06:00

Judging by her responses it appears she has become so delusional that she actually thinks she is helping this ward.

My guess is that she knows she is in way over her head now days. I think she also knows that her days in office are dwindling and the ward has done what she has always tried to prevent...grow. Cheap lakefront property is a valuable thing in this city, and she couldn't hold out forever. Twenty years as a slumlord sure is impressive though.

The funny thing about the whole Wilson Yard project is the irony. She went against her beliefs (bringing in a major retailer) so she could have a few more votes come election time. In the end those extra votes will be drawfed by the number of voters who are pissed about what she has created.

"Ald Shiller says the gang activity is caused by p...

2009-11-18T09:56:47.501-06:00

"Ald Shiller says the gang activity is caused by people from outside the community."

Lovely.

Helen is missing the point in that it shouldn't matter if the gang activity is being caused by martians from outer space--if they keep congregating at cartain areas (Such as Lawrence/Leland/Sheridan, or the buildings on the 4400 block of Magnolia), then ignoring the matter does more harm than good.

IP you usually make me laugh but not everythying...

2009-11-18T09:34:50.044-06:00

IP

you usually make me laugh but not everythying is a joke.

Does she still consider gang "fisticuffs" okay? I...

2009-11-18T09:05:15.181-06:00

Does she still consider gang "fisticuffs" okay? Is she so unaware of what's happening in this city that she does not know that Derrion Albert was killed by gang "fisticuffs"?

IP - I just want to say how much you make me smile...

2009-11-18T06:55:59.556-06:00

IP - I just want to say how much you make me smile.

NU, I do not have an eyepatch or Irish accent. I...

2009-11-17T23:00:18.013-06:00

NU,

I do not have an eyepatch or Irish accent. I do have a pegleg and a Chicago accent.

I don't run. I more or less stump around at a quick pace.

Geez, get it right, willya.

When Helen claims the violence in our community is...

2009-11-17T22:55:21.206-06:00

When Helen claims the violence in our community is caused by outsiders, how come nobody ever asks her
1. where she obtained data that supports her claim and will she make it available to her constituents?
2. what is attracting these "people from outside the community" to brawl and make mischief in our part of town?

@Ray Too true. Stats can EASILY lie. The lesser c...

2009-11-17T22:27:55.613-06:00

@Ray
Too true. Stats can EASILY lie. The lesser crimes which make up a larger numerical portion of the totals decreased while the headline-worthy major incidents that we notice have increased. It's a bit of a catch-22: less likely to get mugged, more likely to get shot.

@Starck Mad:
The police weren't claiming things were objectively better. In fact, they seemed to have a pretty clear idea of exactly how rough things have gotten.

The takehome message was call 911. Officers are allocated at least partially based on call rate. Also, multiple calls per incident help the officers pinpoint suspects. One person calls in "red bandana" another calls in "bandana and eye patch", a third calls in "eye patch, sword and Irish accent," the picture becomes clear :p anyway...

@Abhay. I'm sure Helen met with each one of the g...

2009-11-17T21:33:21.551-06:00

@Abhay. I'm sure Helen met with each one of the gang members involved in the 'fisticuffs' individually (and shootings that have happened since then) and asked where they currently reside.

Where is Joe Wilson when you need him to shout out "You lie!"

Per usual, TOTAL smoke and mirrors. Is there ever...

2009-11-17T21:23:38.559-06:00

Per usual, TOTAL smoke and mirrors.

Is there ever praise lavished on the 46th Ward's accomplishments? If there are/were, they are over shadowed by the pat, and oblivious responses given.

Anyone can say 'crime is down!'...but it ignores what is really going on up here.

Just curious, if anyone anyone at the meeting questioned why these rare 'town hall' meetings don't happen up here in the thick of things?

@Nicknameunavailable: Let's not forget that fewer...

2009-11-17T21:08:46.228-06:00

@Nicknameunavailable: Let's not forget that fewer police means fewer stats. Numbers don't always tell the whole story. Does it seem like crime is down with all the violence and shootings since the beginning of summer?

Another of Eric's tweets: "Resident asked about sa...

2009-11-17T21:05:41.609-06:00

Another of Eric's tweets: "Resident asked about saturation of pub housing. She says 46th is under cha thresholds for pct of pub housing. "

If that were true, which it's not, cha would have been involved in Wilson Yard. But, we are over 20% threshold for subsidized housing. That's why she needed TIF money. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm glad Helen has surveyed the gang members to re...

2009-11-17T21:02:02.144-06:00

I'm glad Helen has surveyed the gang members to report facts like "gang activity caused by people outside the community".

What firm or individual ran this poll?

WOW! This tweet from her meeting is a virtual gol...

2009-11-17T20:54:20.100-06:00

WOW! This tweet from her meeting is a virtual gold mine for anyone running against her. She literally is her own worst enemy.

Just got back from CAPS beat 2312 meeting. There ...

2009-11-17T20:29:58.491-06:00

Just got back from CAPS beat 2312 meeting. There were a number of positives: Even including recent gang violence, total crime is down compared to last year (!!). Stings on Leland have greatly reduced prostitution. Thanks for the tweets Eric!

"..... She said it was fisticuffs" WOW, unbelieva...

2009-11-17T20:13:38.124-06:00

"..... She said it was fisticuffs"

WOW, unbelievable......thanks for the Tweets Eric!

From Eric's Tweets: "Ald Shiller says the gang act...

2009-11-17T20:07:36.179-06:00

From Eric's Tweets: "Ald Shiller says the gang activity is caused by people from outside the community. "

Maybe from outside her community on Carmen, but not from outside my community in Uptown.